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Old 09-14-2015, 03:28 PM   #101
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"One avenue of thought you might pursue for a while is what it might cost to do an ocean passage"

I would disagree with this entire concept.

A boat built structuraly for inshore has ZERO business in the deep water for very long..

Sure a lucky few have done a round trip and not seen more than 35K of wind.

But for most an inshore boat as most "trawlers" are does not have the proper build for the blue water, the ocean.

Sure paravanes can make the ride far better for a few grand , but rebuilding the PH so it stays in place with waves falling on it is a far different matter.

For stunting you need a special single purpose boat, Idlewild has been for sale for years!!!

Wonder why?

The easy way to do the NW Passage would be to motor up, pay CA$H to be lifted on deck , and get launched at the far end. And you wont get mashed by the Bergy Bits.
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Old 09-14-2015, 03:52 PM   #102
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The easy way to do the NW Passage would be to motor up, pay CA$H to be lifted on deck , and get launched at the far end. And you wont get mashed by the Bergy Bits.
Sprague Theobald took a Nordhavn 57 through. His book "The Other Side of the Ice" about the voyage has relatively little coverage of the boating aspects though.
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Old 09-14-2015, 05:02 PM   #103
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I always have liked the look and layout of the Defever 53. Does anyone know the real numbers on clearance and draft on these boats?
The draft is stated at 4' 8", so it's 5'. The air draft looks to be 20-25'.

But just call the broker and ask.
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Old 09-14-2015, 07:32 PM   #104
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You sure seem fixated on that boats anchor for some reason.
Gee, anchoring capability is a basic requirement, isn't it?

Have you heard of Lloyds A1? That it means a good vessel?

Well, it turns out that anchors are kind of important:
1 - The figure 1 in the character signifies that the ship
has equipment of anchors, chain cables and hawsers in
accordance with, or of a standard equivalent to, the Rule
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Old 09-15-2015, 08:47 AM   #105
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"One avenue of thought you might pursue for a while is what it might cost to do an ocean passage"

I would disagree with this entire concept.

A boat built structuraly for inshore has ZERO business in the deep water for very long..

Sure a lucky few have done a round trip and not seen more than 35K of wind.

But for most an inshore boat as most "trawlers" are does not have the proper build for the blue water, the ocean.

Sure paravanes can make the ride far better for a few grand , but rebuilding the PH so it stays in place with waves falling on it is a far different matter.

Yes, I'd expect a purpose-built passagemaker might be in the neighborhood of maybe $100-200K ?? more than a well-built coastal cruiser of the same general length//volume/displacement. Just a guess, but certainly more is probably correct.

And then the cost of an actual ocean crossing probably wouldn't be insignificant. (Dauntless experience germane.)

Only Wayne can decide whether that's in his wallet. Now or in the future. Or not.

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