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Old 09-08-2016, 08:26 PM   #1
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What Do You Pay For Or Do Yourself

Triggered by the teak thread.

There are many things I am quite able to do on the boat, but some of these I would prefer to pay someone to do. Other things I would rather not pay for and do myself.

What things do you do, or pay to have done?

I'm thinking from the posts I have seen on here that there are many who do EVERYTHING themselves. And good on you for being able and willing to do that!

For example:

I will NOT mess with electrical - DC or AC.

I will replace pumps and many other straight plug-in same replacements. Like batteries. I even replaced a manual head with an electric one on the last boat.

I will not wax the boat in the Florida heat. That is a young man's job!

I will top up fluids (steering, engine and tranny) but I prefer to leave the annual engine maintenance to the authorized engine guy.

I will pay for the bottom job and the twice yearly diver to clean and check zincs.
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Old 09-08-2016, 08:39 PM   #2
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Great question.

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Will: change oil, coolant, impeller, and filters for engine and genset. Wash the boat, service the head and empty the holding tank. Make up dock lines, fender lines, and ground tackle. Replace bilge pumps and switches, do work on the DC and AC electrical systems. Replace vent lines, water lines and fuel lines. Maintain hydraulic steering system.

Pay for: Compound and wax. Bottom painting. Quarterly bottom cleaning by a diver and replace zincs as needed. After cooler or turbo servicing. Installing new electronics such as AIS transceiver. Fiberglass repair.

If I was retired, I would do more myself as I would have more time. Since my time is limited, I want to spend my time playing with the boat instead of working on it. However, going down to the boat to do some of the maintenance and upgrades is something that I do enjoy. It is a form of playing with the boat.
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Old 09-08-2016, 08:46 PM   #3
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I pay for bottom paint, and waxing of the boat.

The rest I do myself
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dhays, you're hired!!
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Old 09-08-2016, 08:50 PM   #5
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I'm doing all technical but nothing glorious that my job from 20 years..

we pay for:

exterior and interior cleaning, compound and wax, stainless steel maintenance, bottom cleaning by diver but I'm doing zincs under water.
for sure antifouling and fiberglass if need it (this is too scratchy to doing this job)
wood work and varnish and canvas if need it..

all the reste if for me, driving at sea my boys
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Old 09-08-2016, 09:12 PM   #6
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We pay to get the boat hauled, and that's it.

Luckily, we have a retired diesel mechanic in the family and a good friend is an electrician. I don't like bothering them, so I end up trying to figure things out on my own and only call them for advice when necessary. When I'm truly in over my head they come down to the boat, which has only happened a couple times.

Must send kudos to TF member C lectric who has been a wealth of information because his brother-in-law was the first owner of Badger. How he remembers so much from so long ago mystifies me!
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Old 09-08-2016, 09:19 PM   #7
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I'll pay for anything that requires grinding fiberglass, sanding or anything else that takes over 3 days
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Old 09-08-2016, 09:27 PM   #8
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Holy Crap! Am I the only one who doesn't compound and wax?
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Old 09-08-2016, 09:31 PM   #9
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Holy Crap! Am I the only one who doesn't compound and wax?
No, so far no one has said that they compound and wax!
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Old 09-08-2016, 09:35 PM   #10
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I'm like Murray except we don't have a fairy godfather

We pay for haulouts, prop work, prop shaft work, some electrical work like installing the Xantrex but I install stuff like radar, hydraulic steering, anchor capstan and bilge pumps ect. We have an engine that was new 10 years ago so nothing I can't do there. We had the BW gear rebuilt and the repower while we were living in Alaska. We do all our own painting, oil changes and general maintenance.
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Pay to have bottom painted. Costs too much to have the boat in the yard and my wife and I in a hotel while I bottom paint.

Pay to have the cap rail varnished if it needs to be sanded down to bare wood.

Pay for carpentry work as I am incompetent at finished woodwork.

Pay for major mechanical work such as changing the stater on the genset or the values on any engine.

Most everything else I do myself, or at least give it a try. Electrical work I find to be a breeze, plumbing is frequently physically painful, and electronics installation is often frustrating.
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I don't wax. I do polish the metal. I have done everything when I was younger and didn't have the extra money. I'm not good (read impatient) at fiber-glassing, fairing, and painting. Sean does that and the waxing. I do all the plumbing, electric, electronic, and mechanical installation and maintenance. Don't work on the inside oily parts of engines. Have scrubbed the bottom but will also pay others to do it. Sean is also a better welder than I am. As probably most of us, I'm loosing upper body strength. So there are things that I want, could, and used to do.....that I can't anymore. Sucks when the mind is willing, but the body isn't strong enough anymore. Everybody should have a Sean!

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Old 09-08-2016, 10:02 PM   #13
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Triggered by the teak thread.

There are many things I am quite able to do on the boat, but some of these I would prefer to pay someone to do. Other things I would rather not pay for and do myself.

What things do you do, or pay to have done?

I'm thinking from the posts I have seen on here that there are many who do EVERYTHING themselves. And good on you for being able and willing to do that!

For example:

I will NOT mess with electrical - DC or AC.

I will replace pumps and many other straight plug-in same replacements. Like batteries. I even replaced a manual head with an electric one on the last boat.

I will not wax the boat in the Florida heat. That is a young man's job!

I will top up fluids (steering, engine and tranny) but I prefer to leave the annual engine maintenance to the authorized engine guy.

I will pay for the bottom job and the twice yearly diver to clean and check zincs.
Just about the same here, will do varnish work and misc sealing etc. Will do oil and trans fluid changes. Recently did a minor tank fitting repair. If wood work needed doing I can handle that, did it for 30 years, but mechs and elecs, forget it.
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Old 09-08-2016, 10:05 PM   #14
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I don't ; wax , Fiberglass repair, engine repair, wood work mods, bottom.
I do: pretty much everything else
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No, so far no one has said that they compound and wax!
I mean I don't pay someone to do it and I don't do it myself! It ain't done on FlyWright. It's the way we roll.
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Old 09-08-2016, 10:35 PM   #16
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I mean I don't pay someone to do it and I don't do it myself! It ain't done on FlyWright. It's the way we roll.
You don't wax your woodie?
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I do it - wash it after every use from anchor light to waterline, compound and wax (uuugh never ends), oil changes, filter changes, preventive maintenance such as disassemble/clean/reassemble the shower sump, parts changing such as replacing a FW pump, rebedding hatches and portholes, replacing and resealing navigation lights, trailer light replacement. I do the project management from start to finish on the things I DON'T do, including product research and vendor selection.

I hire out - Volvo Penta Technician for drive servicing and engine maintenance beyond fluids/filters, bottom renewal, trailer brake renewal, wheel bearing maintenance, electronics installation. I plan to have some gelcoat repairs done, and possibly add some interior hatch trim for a screen. If I need any fiberglass work, it will be contracted.
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Old 09-08-2016, 11:48 PM   #18
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Balance

I try to do most anything on the boat myself. But When faced with time vs money spent and I have to make a choice between paying someone and enjoy going out I'll pay someone to do a job I can just to play. I prefer using someone for electrical work and heavy mechanical. I keep all the fluids changed, service the engines, wash the boat.
Now if it's a question of whether to wax and stay or go and play it's always the latter so I am with Flywright.
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Old 09-08-2016, 11:52 PM   #19
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I'd be happy to pay for a lot more stuff if I found someone reliable and quality. Right now, I don't do bottom paint and I don't trust myself enough to do electrical involving genset, charger or inverter. I have paid for some gelcoat work and once I paid for a contortionist to paint my bilges.
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So far on this boat I've paid someone to:

Lift the boat & bottom paint;
Replace the standing rigging;
Replace/upgrade the running rigging;
Apply prop speed.

Done Myself:
Replace windlass;
Recore deck in bow area;
Re-bed most deck fittings;
Pull engine, Prepare new engine bed, set up engine mounts & paint bilge;
Install new fuel tanks, fuel filters and fittings;
Install new engine & gearbox; align shaft, repack stuffing box, replace prop;
Move batteries; Rewire 90% of electrical;
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