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Old 11-27-2010, 03:09 PM   #21
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RE: What did I get myself into??

Unless the surveyor siad they are structural or a safety issue, you won't get your money back out of doing the work. While there is a good feeling in having everything on the boat perfect, unless you have enough time or money to throw at it and not be stressed about it, don't worry about it.

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Old 11-28-2010, 05:37 PM   #22
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RE: What did I get myself into??

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Unless the surveyor siad they are structural or a safety issue, you won't get your money back out of doing the work. While there is a good feeling in having everything on the boat perfect, unless you have enough time or money to throw at it and not be stressed about it, don't worry about it.

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There are other resale issues than getting ALL of your money back but when added together it may come closer than you imagine. I had to wrestle with these issues in making our decision to do a two layer peel.

First of all, many boat buyers will not even consider any boat that has blisters. So if you dont fix them now, eventually when it comes time to sell your older boat, you will be eliminating potential buyers.
Second, a potential buyer may show you genuine interest. But he will use the blister repair to knock down your sale price. He will ball park the job based upon a peel job and then lower his offer accordingly. Now you may have wished you had gone for the peel job years earlier.
Third, in the scenario above, peel jobs will not be cheaper. So the reduction in price may be higher than if you paid the cash now. Remember that fiberglass resin is a petroleum product, and as such, will change price proportionately to the commodities market for crude oil. Then add to that the sky rocketing cost of health care for employees, which translates into higher business operating costs. We will all see much higher increases since the govt has mandated health care and increasaed coverage for "ne'er do well" children who dont want to leave Mommie's home until age 26.
Fourth, I concluded that I dont like broken things. I fixed it and felt much better about it. My hull is now STRONGER than when it was originally manufactured. The 1808 Kyntex cloth (x2 layers) makes it extremely bullet proof. And last summer while cruising along the Chesapeake Bay in calm water, we hit something submerged against the hull with a THUD!!! loud enough to be heard clearly over the engine and stereo. Never saw it even though I went back to look.

So there are a lot of factors to consider. I think it comes down to pay me now or pay me later.

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Old 11-29-2010, 07:55 AM   #23
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First of all, many boat buyers will not even consider any boat that has blisters.
Third, in the scenario above, peel jobs will not be cheaper. So the reduction in price may be higher than if you paid the cash now.
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Then add to that the sky rocketing cost of health care for employees, which translates into higher business operating costs. We will all see much higher increases since the govt has mandated health care and increasaed coverage for "ne'er do well" children who dont want to leave Mommie's home until age 26.

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In response to your first comment, a buyer will eliminate many if not most boats if the*existence*of blisters is his primary criteria. I was aware of the existence of blisters on my boat before I bought her but was assured that they were not*structural. No one involved with my blister repair has suggested peeling the gel coat, so unlike your issue, my blisters are of a cosmetic nature.*

My dilemma revolves around the extent I should go to to repair these cosmetic blisters. The*overwhelming advice I have been given has been to ignore them. I wish I had been given that advice before I had started this project. Since I have ground out 65+ on the port side I'm committed to filling them and will probably do the same to the largest ones on the stbd side.


Your last comment is in my opinion a bit of a*stretch, and if taken to it's ultimate end would interpret this as saying no boat is worth considering unless everything on it is perfect as if it were new.***

But I will agree with you on the prospect of higher medical insurance costs if Obama care is implemented in it's current form. However I will probably not take this into consideration when deciding how to deal with my blisters.



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Old 11-29-2010, 10:20 AM   #24
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RE: What did I get myself into??

Every time we pull I have the hull surveyed for future insurance and finance purposes as the rest of the survey can be on with the boat in the water and send a copy to the insurance company.* So your might want to hire a survey, do what he recommends and/or call your insurance company as to what they say?** I call my insurance Marine Specialist several times a year*for advise and/or references*as insurance for our boat is limited.*


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