Reply
 
Thread Tools Display Modes
 
Old 04-07-2015, 08:22 PM   #1
Guru
 
ancora's Avatar
 
Join Date: Dec 2007
Posts: 3,489
Weaver dinghy mounts...

Now that our dinghy has used up its usefulness and is headed for that great marina in the sky, what do I use to remove the Weaver mounts to glue on our new dinghy? I'm thinkin' my Harbor Freight heat gun.
__________________
Advertisement

ancora is online now   Reply With Quote
Old 04-07-2015, 10:12 PM   #2
TF Site Team
 
FlyWright's Avatar
 
City: California Delta and SF Bay
Country: Sacramento, CA, USA (boat in Vallejo)
Vessel Name: FlyWright
Vessel Model: Marshall Californian 34 LRC
Join Date: Apr 2008
Posts: 10,179
I'd call a company that installs them. They'd know.
__________________

__________________
Al

Custom Google Trawler Forum Search
FlyWright is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 04-07-2015, 11:08 PM   #3
Guru
 
fryedaze's Avatar
 
City: Solomons Island Md
Country: USA
Vessel Name: Fryedaze
Vessel Model: MC 42 (Overseas Ltd) Monk 42
Join Date: Sep 2011
Posts: 1,052
I am in the middle of doing the same job. My pads need removed and re-glued. I used a little MEK on a paint brush and slowly worked them off. Everything I have read since then indicated that it can be done with a heat gun. My pads were about 50% glued before I removed them so they came off pretty easy. Everything I read says its a PIA to remove all the glue and mess. I will be using MEK sparingly to clean the pads and dingy before re-gluing the pads. If anyone has advice I could use some.
__________________
Dave Frye
Fryedaze, MC 42 (Monk 42') 1989 Overseas Co
http://mvfryedaze.blogspot.com/
fryedaze is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 04-08-2015, 04:31 PM   #4
Guru
 
fryedaze's Avatar
 
City: Solomons Island Md
Country: USA
Vessel Name: Fryedaze
Vessel Model: MC 42 (Overseas Ltd) Monk 42
Join Date: Sep 2011
Posts: 1,052
Pad removal

I did some more research ( some of which is on TF). I cleaned the glue off the boat today. I did it with acetone and a few rags. I read that MEK is pretty bad stuff. Either way I wore a respirator. The acetone cleaned the boat pretty well but barely touched the glue on the pads. I tried some MEK and it didn't do any better. Based on the failure rates of attaching these I just ordered new pad from Weaver. While I am waiting for them I am running a dehumidifier in the garage in prep for the glue up. I still have to figure out if I deflate the dingy or leave it filled. I have read suggestions on both methods. I think this is one of those deals where I have a 50/50 chance of it working. Maybe time to find and expert
The blackish areas on the pads and boat were no longer glued.
Attached Thumbnails
Click image for larger version

Name:	SDC13739.jpg
Views:	107
Size:	131.9 KB
ID:	39014   Click image for larger version

Name:	SDC13740.jpg
Views:	97
Size:	83.6 KB
ID:	39015   Click image for larger version

Name:	SDC13743.jpg
Views:	101
Size:	82.9 KB
ID:	39016   Click image for larger version

Name:	SDC13744.jpg
Views:	100
Size:	82.9 KB
ID:	39017   Click image for larger version

Name:	SDC13741.jpg
Views:	98
Size:	123.2 KB
ID:	39018  

__________________
Dave Frye
Fryedaze, MC 42 (Monk 42') 1989 Overseas Co
http://mvfryedaze.blogspot.com/
fryedaze is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 04-08-2015, 05:00 PM   #5
RNL
Senior Member
 
RNL's Avatar
 
City: Sitka
Country: USA
Vessel Name: Rob n' Lee
Vessel Model: Kadey Krogen 42' #192
Join Date: Feb 2015
Posts: 108
I've had mixed to poor results trying to reattach those pads when they start to separate or come off. But, have not had a good, indoor area to work in where the humidity can be controlled and optimized. If they are old like mine were , I totally agree that you at least start with new pads especially on a new dinghy to give the best chance of a good outcome. Good Luck!
RNL is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 04-08-2015, 05:10 PM   #6
Guru
 
Moonstruck's Avatar
 
City: Hailing Port: Charleston, SC
Country: USA
Vessel Name: Moonstruck
Vessel Model: Sabre 42 Hardtop Express
Join Date: Nov 2008
Posts: 7,848
Quote:
Originally Posted by fryedaze View Post
I am in the middle of doing the same job. My pads need removed and re-glued. I used a little MEK on a paint brush and slowly worked them off. Everything I have read since then indicated that it can be done with a heat gun. My pads were about 50% glued before I removed them so they came off pretty easy. Everything I read says its a PIA to remove all the glue and mess. I will be using MEK sparingly to clean the pads and dingy before re-gluing the pads. If anyone has advice I could use some.
Dave, try toluene.
__________________
Don on Moonstruck
Sabre 42 Hardtop Express & Blackfin 25 CC
When cruising life is simpler, but on a grander scale (author unknown)
http://moonstruckblog.wordpress.com/
Moonstruck is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 04-08-2015, 05:46 PM   #7
Guru
 
ancora's Avatar
 
Join Date: Dec 2007
Posts: 3,489
The Weaver instruction book says to deflate the dinghy because the pads need to be clamped on when gluing. I found out why most dinghies have the pads close together. Went too far aft and could not get that part flat to put clamps on when gluing. Read the book first? That ain't no fun.
ancora is online now   Reply With Quote
Old 04-09-2015, 01:15 PM   #8
Guru
 
C lectric's Avatar
 
City: Somewhere
Country: , Canada
Vessel Name: Island Pride
Vessel Model: Palmer sedan 32'
Join Date: Oct 2007
Posts: 1,870
I'm sure you know already but somewhere I have read that you need to fresh glue. It was on this forum. Several people had found that using some older stuff, even though it was the correct glue, resulted in more than expected failures.
C lectric is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 04-09-2015, 05:15 PM   #9
Guru
 
fryedaze's Avatar
 
City: Solomons Island Md
Country: USA
Vessel Name: Fryedaze
Vessel Model: MC 42 (Overseas Ltd) Monk 42
Join Date: Sep 2011
Posts: 1,052
Quote:
Originally Posted by C lectric View Post
I'm sure you know already but somewhere I have read that you need to fresh glue. It was on this forum. Several people had found that using some older stuff, even though it was the correct glue, resulted in more than expected failures.
I don't know what the code is but I hope the '16' means 2016.
Attached Thumbnails
Click image for larger version

Name:	SDC13748.jpg
Views:	92
Size:	96.6 KB
ID:	39058   Click image for larger version

Name:	SDC13747.jpg
Views:	83
Size:	71.3 KB
ID:	39059   Click image for larger version

Name:	SDC13749.jpg
Views:	90
Size:	77.4 KB
ID:	39060  
__________________
Dave Frye
Fryedaze, MC 42 (Monk 42') 1989 Overseas Co
http://mvfryedaze.blogspot.com/
fryedaze is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 04-09-2015, 08:38 PM   #10
Guru
 
ancora's Avatar
 
Join Date: Dec 2007
Posts: 3,489
The instructions that came with the glue emphasized the effect of high humidity on the process but did not cover the low humidity we have here in Southern California. I brushed on the glue and waited the prescribed time but the glue set up on me and would not stick.
ancora is online now   Reply With Quote
Old 04-09-2015, 10:09 PM   #11
Guru
 
fryedaze's Avatar
 
City: Solomons Island Md
Country: USA
Vessel Name: Fryedaze
Vessel Model: MC 42 (Overseas Ltd) Monk 42
Join Date: Sep 2011
Posts: 1,052
Quote:
Originally Posted by ancora View Post
The instructions that came with the glue emphasized the effect of high humidity on the process but did not cover the low humidity we have here in Southern California. I brushed on the glue and waited the prescribed time but the glue set up on me and would not stick.
That's good info I have humidifier running and am at 55%. Looks like I will have to ensure the humidity doesn't get to low.
__________________
Dave Frye
Fryedaze, MC 42 (Monk 42') 1989 Overseas Co
http://mvfryedaze.blogspot.com/
fryedaze is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 04-12-2015, 02:49 PM   #12
Guru
 
ancora's Avatar
 
Join Date: Dec 2007
Posts: 3,489
I tried gettin' the pads off with my heat gun with no success. The Sicilian suggested we use her weapon of choice a sharp knife. I cut the pads off with the dingy fabric still attached and am in the process of gettin' the fabric to separate from the mounts. Gotta look for that tolouene stuff.
ancora is online now   Reply With Quote
Old 04-12-2015, 03:16 PM   #13
Guru
 
Tom.B's Avatar
 
City: Cary, NC
Country: USA
Vessel Name: Skinny Dippin'
Vessel Model: Navigator 4200 Classic
Join Date: Jul 2009
Posts: 5,153
TBH, when faced with the same situation in the past, I opted to buy new ones for the boat. Getting the surfaced prepped well enough for re-gluing was impossible. It never stuck properly.
__________________
2000 Navigator 4200 Classic
(NOT a trawler)
Tom.B is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 04-12-2015, 04:01 PM   #14
Guru
 
ancora's Avatar
 
Join Date: Dec 2007
Posts: 3,489
Is it possible to buy just the rubber pads without the SS steel parts?
ancora is online now   Reply With Quote
Old 04-12-2015, 04:37 PM   #15
Guru
 
City: Satsuma FL
Country: United States
Vessel Name: No Mo Trawla
Vessel Model: Hurricane SS188
Join Date: Jul 2014
Posts: 1,677
Quote:
Originally Posted by ancora View Post
Is it possible to buy just the rubber pads without the SS steel parts?
The Weaver web site has this for $141.

http://www.weaverindustries.com/inde...-dinghies.html

Is that what you are looking for?
Donsan is online now   Reply With Quote
Old 04-12-2015, 09:41 PM   #16
Guru
 
ancora's Avatar
 
Join Date: Dec 2007
Posts: 3,489
Looks good to me. I am not gonna take a chance of losin' a brand spanky new dinghy with used pads.
ancora is online now   Reply With Quote
Old 04-12-2015, 09:48 PM   #17
Guru
 
cardude01's Avatar
 
City: Victoria TX
Country: USA
Vessel Name: Bijou
Vessel Model: 2008 Island Packet steadysailer
Join Date: Nov 2012
Posts: 3,176
Quote:
Originally Posted by fryedaze View Post
That's good info I have humidifier running and am at 55%. Looks like I will have to ensure the humidity doesn't get to low.

What's this "humidifier" sorcery you speak of? Why would anyone ever want to increase humidity?

😳
cardude01 is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 04-12-2015, 11:14 PM   #18
Guru
 
C lectric's Avatar
 
City: Somewhere
Country: , Canada
Vessel Name: Island Pride
Vessel Model: Palmer sedan 32'
Join Date: Oct 2007
Posts: 1,870
It would appear that the cement or glue needs a minimum humidity level to set properly, not too fast.
Read Ancora post, #10
C lectric is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 04-13-2015, 08:55 PM   #19
chc
Senior Member
 
chc's Avatar
 
City: Essex, MD
Country: USA
Vessel Name: Scooter
Vessel Model: 1984 Californian 34 LRC
Join Date: Jan 2011
Posts: 310
Toluene worked for me
__________________
Scooter
1984 Californian 34 LRC
www.scootersvoyage.blogspot.com
chc is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 04-13-2015, 09:33 PM   #20
Guru
 
fryedaze's Avatar
 
City: Solomons Island Md
Country: USA
Vessel Name: Fryedaze
Vessel Model: MC 42 (Overseas Ltd) Monk 42
Join Date: Sep 2011
Posts: 1,052
Quote:
Originally Posted by ancora View Post
Is it possible to buy just the rubber pads without the SS steel parts?
I have new pads coming Wednesday. They come without the metal bars. Will probably take the plunge and glue them up on Thursday. I will take some pictures.
__________________

__________________
Dave Frye
Fryedaze, MC 42 (Monk 42') 1989 Overseas Co
http://mvfryedaze.blogspot.com/
fryedaze is offline   Reply With Quote
Reply

Thread Tools
Display Modes

Posting Rules
You may not post new threads
You may not post replies
You may not post attachments
You may not edit your posts

BB code is On
Smilies are On
[IMG] code is On
HTML code is Off
Trackbacks are Off
Pingbacks are Off
Refbacks are Off





All times are GMT -5. The time now is 12:18 PM.


Powered by vBulletin® Version 3.8.8 Beta 4
Copyright ©2000 - 2017, vBulletin Solutions, Inc.
Search Engine Optimization by vBSEO 3.6.0
Copyright 2006 - 2012