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Old 11-12-2014, 10:28 AM   #41
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In my opinion you do not buy a watermaker as a cost justified thing.

You buy one either because you need it due to the unavailibility of water, or as a convience thing.

Like most things on a boat if you try to cost justify a watermaker it probably wont work out.
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Old 11-12-2014, 01:43 PM   #42
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Watermakers aren't justified by cost or cost savings. In fact they increase your water usage so even comparing to Bahamas rates if you were buying $0.50 per gallon water you'd probably use much less than $0.20 per gallon water. Except for drinking, water isn't a necessity in the strictest sense.

However, in my household it certainly is.

Wifey B: We are totally and complete adverse to being among the less clean and even less pampered. We take long showers. Sometimes when we get distracted in the shower they become very long. Well, we do conserve by always showering together. hehe. We each have certain things that we just don't intend to do without. For some of you it's the cup of coffee. That's one I can't grasp. The yucky hot brown stuff. I'll stick to water. But if that's what it takes to make you feel like you're at home and not sacrificing something important to you then coffee becomes very important. So we might average 40-50 gallons of water per shower and sometimes use 100 and sometimes shower twice a day. Then toss in our guests who are as bad as me. Carmen has waist length hair. Wanna guess how long it takes her to shampoo it? And we're just not going to put ourselves in the situation of having to tell guests you can only shower 5 minutes or something.

Even with marinas, some are easy to fill from. But others not so and not enough connections and the quality of water sometimes is awful. Hard water one day, soft the next. I remember the first hotel we ever stayed in with soft water and thought we were going to run them out of water just rinsing the shampoo out of our hair. With a watermaker and filtration, we control the quality of our water and know what we're getting.

Oh plus we often do laundry while underway.
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Old 11-13-2014, 10:20 AM   #43
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Back to the OP, due to your large tankage and the need for continued water maker maintenance I would pull the unit, making your boat simpler is a good thing.
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Old 12-12-2014, 11:43 PM   #44
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Hi All

This is my first post on Trawler Forum!! Been on Bayliner Owners for afew years and have really enjoyed it as I had a Bayliner 4788 96 model which we loved!!
Having stepped up to what I think will be last boat a 68' Horizon 98 model that has a Katadyn 160 water maker I thought I might ask a question.
I have never had a water maker before and have not used this one yet, I have had the boat for a year but have had bigger issues to prioritize with the "get to know your boat" reconditioning process .
The water maker has not been used for at least 2 years, probably more and it has been pickled all that time as I understand.

How long can a water maker stay pickled for?
Can I expect filter issues?

Its a 24 volt enclosed version and it runs as I have quickly turned it on and it fired up.

Any advise in recommisioning the unit would be appreciated.

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Old 12-13-2014, 12:22 AM   #45
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Hi All

This is my first post on Trawler Forum!! Been on Bayliner Owners for afew years and have really enjoyed it as I had a Bayliner 4788 96 model which we loved!!
Having stepped up to what I think will be last boat a 68' Horizon 98 model that has a Katadyn 160 water maker I thought I might ask a question.
I have never had a water maker before and have not used this one yet, I have had the boat for a year but have had bigger issues to prioritize with the "get to know your boat" reconditioning process .
The water maker has not been used for at least 2 years, probably more and it has been pickled all that time as I understand.

How long can a water maker stay pickled for?
Can I expect filter issues?

Its a 24 volt enclosed version and it runs as I have quickly turned it on and it fired up.

Any advise in recommisioning the unit would be appreciated.

Thanks

Andrew
Run it and see what it does.

I have the same model and it stays pickled for 6 months during winter. All I do is run it for a while to get it going.
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Old 12-13-2014, 04:28 AM   #46
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Thanks for that , yep I will just fire it up and see how it goes. I actually found your detailed start up procedure on another post by coincidence and have printed it out as a guide.

By the way I had a look at your boat on your website...that is one nice 4788! They are a great boat.
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Old 12-13-2014, 09:06 AM   #47
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As Kevin says, run it and see what happens.

The manufacturers usually say to re-pickle the membrane annually, at least. If the membrane does need replacement, you can buy a new Dow Filmtec replacement, for your unit, for less than $200. Also, get a TDS monitor (less than $25). I's one of the best tools for you and your water maker.
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Old 12-13-2014, 09:24 AM   #48
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Thanks for that , yep I will just fire it up and see how it goes. I actually found your detailed start up procedure on another post by coincidence and have printed it out as a guide.

By the way I had a look at your boat on your website...that is one nice 4788! They are a great boat.
Andrew

It makes me and all other 4788 owners feel good that our migration path, if we choose, is to a vessel like that 68' you moved up to. Nice Boat!!
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Old 12-14-2014, 02:42 AM   #49
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Thanks for that advise I guess I wont know id the membrane is ok until I give it a run. I intend to run it over the summer break this year to see if we can avoid looking for water. We live aboard for around 10 weeks at this time of year.
Having had many boats in my life since my father started my "footitis" when gave me a tiny Sabot yacht when I was 10!, 20 odd boats later we are good at conserving water!

But with the bigger boat now and having guests on board frequently, including grand children, and land lovers,it is very hard to control water consumption.

I am constantly telling people how to shower and stop rinsing dishes.

I don't know if my little 80 model water maker will keep up but as it runs on 24Volt it can run 24/7 if needed...we don't need to run genset full time unless we need aircon as our fridges are eutectic.

Thanks for your comments Kevin, yes we really thought the Bayliner was our perfect boat , perfect for two with the odd guests but with 4 kids plus grandies we felt the big step up would be better for our lifestyle so kids could occasionally stay. Its worked well for us. I must say that it is very hard to find a boat that is affordable to step up to after the 4788 as they offer so much for the money.

The Horizon 68 has really filled the bill for us.

...thanks again

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Old 12-14-2014, 01:02 PM   #50
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we are good at conserving water!
Wifey B: I'm lousy at it and no intent of getting any better...ever...

I can't imagine life without a watermaker. Fewer showers, wearing dirty clothes, things like that just aren't an option. The only thing I do toward conserving water is shower with my hubby but then sometimes that has the opposite effect as ..... nevermind why.
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