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Old 08-16-2014, 07:16 PM   #1
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Waked early and hard

Docked at Jekyll Harbor Marina we are right on the ICW. Today early AM a trawler "Island time" came by at what appeared to be full speed, pushing a huge wake only 25 feet or so from a full facedock. One of our live a boards called the trawler and spoke with the Captain. I was to busy trying to keep my wife from falling down the galley steps. We get waked a lot in spite of the bridge and a no wake zone and yes I know that over a 100 ft from a dock you do not have to cut your speed. Being able to legally wake the boats at our dock does not mean you should. You cause an accident you will be liable. If you cause my wife pain I will track you down. When we cruise I try my best to be aware and courteous to other boats.

What would you do?
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Old 08-16-2014, 07:20 PM   #2
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One reason I don't stop at Jekyll it's rather exposed to say the least
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Old 08-16-2014, 07:27 PM   #3
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Couldn't be a Trawler..we are too perfect...had to be a Sea Ray or Bayliner knucklehead...

Just ask some of the experts here...they know which boat types do that by heart.

I too don't like it..but am resigned to the fact that marinas will get waked probably and houses for sure if they are open to wakes from the ICW...it's just a fact of life.

I'm glad I travel down after the crowd and am usually North by the time the exodus starts. But my slip on the ICW in Jersey gets waked non-stop all summer. I look forward to the day I stop my towing job and can find better dockage for the summer and take my time on the ICW to only dock in places or better yet anchor where wares are rare.
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In California the no-wake zone is within 100 feet of a swimmer but 200 hundred feet from a landing occupied by boat or passengers. Regardless, distant wakes slipping through our marina's breakwater entrance have destroyed about three finger berths near the entrance. Forty-something-foot cruisers seem to be the worse offenders.
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Island Time. Any port of registration or size and make of vessel?
Vessel Documentation Query by Name
Also sounds like high speed/wake within 25' of a dock is reckless boating. Since you were one of several witnesses a call to the local coast guard is in order. Maybe the captain was BUI?????
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...had to be a Sea Ray or Bayliner .

Yeah, that's it I'm sure.


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Wifey B: "Waked Early and Hard?" What? Am we the only ones who thought anything other than "hit by strong boat wakes early?"
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Wifey B: "Waked Early and Hard?" What? Am we the only ones who thought anything other than "hit by strong boat wakes early?"
Sadly, no.
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Well, guess i'll be off to the St. John's confessional booth now. Thank you.
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Greetings,
Ms. WB. The thought never entered my mind until you brought it up...
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Docked at Jekyll Harbor Marina we are right on the ICW. Today early AM a trawler "Island time" came by at what appeared to be full speed, pushing a huge wake only 25 feet or so from a full facedock. One of our live a boards called the trawler and spoke with the Captain. I was to busy trying to keep my wife from falling down the galley steps. We get waked a lot in spite of the bridge and a no wake zone and yes I know that over a 100 ft from a dock you do not have to cut your speed. Being able to legally wake the boats at our dock does not mean you should. You cause an accident you will be liable. If you cause my wife pain I will track you down. When we cruise I try my best to be aware and courteous to other boats.

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In SC it's fifty feet. They might as well not even have the law.

What would I do? If you cannot document any actual damage, there's nothing you can do legally. Of course you could publish the name on a web forum but you should remember that there are usually several boats with the same name so you could be embarrassing several innocent boat owners.

I would just write it off to an encounter with a jerk who owns a boat and move on. It's happened to me a few times.

BTW: The Coast Guard site shows 259 vessels with that name and that's just the documented vessels.
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I am surprised we don't see more use of wave attenuator's. It's really the best solution for marinas exposed to boat wake. The problem is that the dock in question was designed to provide protection to the slips and designed to expose the side tie transients to wake. I think perhaps their assumption was that smaller boats would dock in slips and 100' plus would side tie on the outside and not be impacted too much. I don't know. What I do know is if you build a dock like that on the ICW you're going to get wake. Depending on season and day of week it might be fairly constant all day.

There's just an inherent and unavoidable problem unless it's in a no wake area of the ICW and even then it's going to have some.
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Wait, did you say,"Depending on season and day of week it might be fairly constant all day." ?
I'm having trouble following this thread.
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"Depending on season and day of week it might be fairly constant all day." ?
Don't they say to visit a doctor if it lasts more than four hours?
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Unfortunately too many wake attenuators help accelerate silting in of marinas that I am familiar with. Plus once damaged by a storm...you rarely see them replaced quickly...not until attrition from the marina over the years due to wakes makes it worthwhile to replace if the silting issue doesn't just negate them forever.
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Wait, did you say,"Depending on season and day of week it might be fairly constant all day." ?
I'm having trouble following this thread.
Wifey B: That's what he said.....and my man knows whereof he speaks....
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The other side of the coin is, you don't have to go far out of your way to dock at that marina.
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"Depending on season and day of week it might be fairly constant all day." ?
Don't they say to visit a doctor if it lasts more than four hours?
You clearly watched the "Little Fockers"
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We have docked at many marinas on the ICW that are exposed to wakes so excluding those like Jekyll limits your adventure. My purpose in posting was to expose that some Trawler owners on the ICW are jerks and azzes. Just because your toy will go 25 knts does not mean you should show your azz to docked boats anywhere you please. 100 or 150 or 200 feet are not the problem, it is being inconsiderate of fellow boaters. Some one may be a vet suffering from PTSD and not behave in a predictable manner. We would of course morn you and secretly say "He was such an Azz we are so happy he is off the water"
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When we cruise I try my best to be aware and courteous to other boats.
Good for you, and the rest of us. We do the same.
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