|
|
06-13-2015, 06:38 AM
|
#1
|
Senior Member
City: Freeport Tx
Join Date: Nov 2014
Posts: 135
|
vacuflush
I have vacuflush that leaks air from the ball valve some of the time is it hard to replace the seal.
|
|
|
06-13-2015, 06:45 AM
|
#2
|
Guru
City: Sarasota/Ft. Lauderdale
Join Date: Apr 2014
Posts: 5,438
|
Quote:
Originally Posted by Pure pleasure
I have vacuflush that leaks air from the ball valve some of the time is it hard to replace the seal.
|
No it's not hard the change the seal. But first try to clean the lip of the seal. Sealand makes tool for that. But you can use an old tooth brush or a scuffy pad to scrub the seal lip clean.
|
|
|
06-13-2015, 06:48 AM
|
#3
|
Senior Member
City: Freeport Tx
Join Date: Nov 2014
Posts: 135
|
thanks
Did not think of that. Will try it
|
|
|
06-13-2015, 06:48 AM
|
#4
|
TF Site Team
City: Jacksonville
Join Date: Nov 2008
Posts: 11,680
|
Get the manual if you don't have it. It's actually pretty good.
But, no it's not hard to change. Just remember to shut off the fresh water feed to the unit.
|
|
|
06-13-2015, 06:57 AM
|
#5
|
Guru
City: North Carolina for now
Join Date: Aug 2011
Posts: 6,348
|
Clean it, then apply some silicon grease. This will solve the issue 90%+ of the time. Make sure when flushing to release the pedal from the bottom of the stroke so it snaps up hard.
__________________
George
"There's the Right Way, the Wrong Way, and what some guy says he's gotten away with"
|
|
|
06-13-2015, 08:18 AM
|
#6
|
Senior Member
City: Whittier
Vessel Name: Nomad
Vessel Model: Brix 42
Join Date: Mar 2012
Posts: 169
|
I did that cleaning procedure and applied petroleum jelly to the seal and reapply every 3 months. So far it has worked perfectly.
|
|
|
06-13-2015, 09:21 AM
|
#7
|
Guru
City: Sidney BC Canada
Vessel Name: RochePoint
Vessel Model: 1985 Cheer Men PT38 Sedan
Join Date: Apr 2009
Posts: 1,744
|
Uploaded a trouble shooting guide to the library, just waiting for approval.
|
|
|
06-13-2015, 09:57 AM
|
#8
|
Moderator Emeritus
City: Cameron, La
Vessel Name: Baobab
Vessel Model: Bayliner 4788
Join Date: Aug 2013
Posts: 2,660
|
Quote:
Originally Posted by rochepoint
Uploaded a trouble shooting guide to the library, just waiting for approval.
|
Done, thanks for the contribution!
|
|
|
06-13-2015, 10:05 AM
|
#9
|
Guru
City: Port Townsend, WA
Vessel Name: Traveler
Vessel Model: Cheoy Lee 46 LRC
Join Date: Nov 2011
Posts: 1,574
|
Easy peesy.
|
|
|
06-13-2015, 11:50 AM
|
#10
|
Guru
City: Campbell River
Vessel Name: Blue Sky
Vessel Model: Nordic Tugs 42 Hull #001
Join Date: Oct 2007
Posts: 1,972
|
Quote:
Originally Posted by caltexflanc
Make sure when flushing to release the pedal from the bottom of the stroke so it snaps up hard.
|
I know that is the recommended way to do it, but it sure goes against the grain!
__________________
Conrad
Berthed in
Campbell River BC
|
|
|
06-13-2015, 12:09 PM
|
#11
|
Guru
City: Duvall, Wa. USA
Vessel Name: Beach Music II
Vessel Model: 2003 Mainship 430 Trawler
Join Date: Aug 2014
Posts: 1,040
|
In an emergency vegetable oil works too.
|
|
|
06-13-2015, 01:40 PM
|
#12
|
Guru
City: Stuart FL
Vessel Name: Lucky Lucky
Vessel Model: Pacific Mariner 65
Join Date: Aug 2013
Posts: 2,760
|
I let the peddle quickly but I don't let it snap up. Did it once or twice by accident and it scared me.
__________________
Howard
Lucky Lucky
Stuart, FL
|
|
|
06-13-2015, 05:53 PM
|
#13
|
Guru
City: North Carolina for now
Join Date: Aug 2011
Posts: 6,348
|
Gotta snap it and overcome fear. Silicon grease lasts a long long time. Just a schmear not a glop. I did the clean and grease thing maybe twice on the two heavy use heads in almost 6 years of year round live aboard.
__________________
George
"There's the Right Way, the Wrong Way, and what some guy says he's gotten away with"
|
|
|
06-13-2015, 05:58 PM
|
#14
|
Guru
City: AR
Join Date: Jul 2009
Posts: 2,515
|
Let it snap up..in fact the directions (not that anyone ever bothers to read 'em) tell you to let it go to snap back into place. That's because it's spring loaded for a reason: to let the dome snap back into place hard enough to seal. Never allowing that to happen leads to an air leak in the bowl that can only be cured by replacing that assembly.
|
|
|
06-13-2015, 09:59 PM
|
#15
|
Guru
City: Alabama
Vessel Name: Waypoint
Vessel Model: Californian 48' CPMY
Join Date: Dec 2013
Posts: 506
|
Are you loosing water out of the bowl? That is the first sign that the bowl seal is leaking. If you are not loosing water out of the bowl then it's not the seal between the ball and the bowl.
You really cannot diagnose properly your system without a vacuum gauge. Doing anything without that is like throwing darts in a blacked out room and expecting to be on target!
On Waypoint our vacuflush system will hold vacuum over a weekend when the pump is turned off. It can be done and they are really reliable units. Just have to be willing to put in the time to install everything correctly!
Did I mention that without a vacuum gauge your really shooting in the dark?
|
|
|
06-13-2015, 10:06 PM
|
#16
|
Senior Member
City: Freeport Tx
Join Date: Nov 2014
Posts: 135
|
leaking
It's at the ball valve losing water and can hear the leak seals sometimes will clean when I get off work on tue thanks for info
|
|
|
06-13-2015, 10:14 PM
|
#17
|
Moderator Emeritus
City: SEWARD ALASKA
Vessel Name: DOS PECES
Vessel Model: BAYLINER 4788
Join Date: Feb 2011
Posts: 6,266
|
Quote:
Originally Posted by Capt. Jon
Are you loosing water out of the bowl? That is the first sign that the bowl seal is leaking. If you are not loosing water out of the bowl then it's not the seal between the ball and the bowl.
You really cannot diagnose properly your system without a vacuum gauge. Doing anything without that is like throwing darts in a blacked out room and expecting to be on target!
On Waypoint our vacuflush system will hold vacuum over a weekend when the pump is turned off. It can be done and they are really reliable units. Just have to be willing to put in the time to install everything correctly!
Did I mention that without a vacuum gauge your really shooting in the dark?
|
Regarding the vacume gauge
How are you utilizing it? Do you have a 1.5" fitting you put over the port on the vacume generator to isolate the problem to the generator or the head?
Thanks!!
|
|
|
06-13-2015, 11:12 PM
|
#18
|
Guru
City: Alabama
Vessel Name: Waypoint
Vessel Model: Californian 48' CPMY
Join Date: Dec 2013
Posts: 506
|
Here is a link to the gauge. DOMETIC 318530002 - Dometic Corporation VACUUM TESTER GAUGE 318530002 - Boaters Plus
Best to use it by starting at the toilet. Turn off the water. Open the ball valve and lock it open. If you have a newer style toilet it has a latch that will keep the ball open. If you have an older style use a toilet bowl brush to hold it open. Hold open the ball, insert the gauge seal and let the hose pass through the brush bristles.
By placing the sealing device at the end of the gauge hose into the exit hole you can determine if it is leaking inside the bowl or between the bowl outlet and the pump. The standard for vacuum is specified in the instructions that come with the gauge. The seal will also close up the end of 1 1/2" hose also.
Once you work out where it is leaking then you can repair or replace what is needed. I once thought the specifications from Dometic were ridiculous but Waypoints system holds vacuum long past the factory specs.
|
|
|
06-14-2015, 12:28 AM
|
#19
|
Guru
City: Sarasota/Ft. Lauderdale
Join Date: Apr 2014
Posts: 5,438
|
Using shaving cream to find leaks works very well.
|
|
|
06-14-2015, 01:55 AM
|
#20
|
TF Site Team
City: Ex-Brisbane, (Australia), now Bribie Island, Qld
Vessel Name: Now boatless - sold 6/2018
Vessel Model: Had a Clipper (CHB) 34
Join Date: Jun 2008
Posts: 10,101
|
Quote:
Originally Posted by porman
In an emergency vegetable oil works too.
|
It certainly helped me get my electric TMV macerator unstuck. Now I put a slush of it down every time we leave the boat. It has always been a bit sticky if left unused for long.
__________________
Pete
|
|
|
|
|
Thread Tools |
Search this Thread |
|
|
Display Modes |
Linear Mode
|
Posting Rules
|
You may not post new threads
You may not post replies
You may not post attachments
You may not edit your posts
HTML code is Off
|
|
|
|
» Trawler Discussions |
|
|
|
|
|
|
|
|
|
|
|
|
|
|
|
|
|
|