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Old 07-31-2014, 12:16 PM   #21
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It's an interesting question. I'm a Raritan dealer so of course I'm tempted to tell you to buy the Marine Elegance, but Vacu Flush systems do have a pretty good reputation. If your VF is in good shape, this might not be the time to replace it. I'd probably be inclined to live with it.

If you decide to replace the VF, then yes the Marine Elegance is the toilet I'd choose.

You mention that access to parts of your VF system is difficult. The ME solves that as everything is right there in the head.

Here is a link to the ME owners manual: http://www.raritaneng.com/pdf_files/...e%20Manual.pdf

I just shipped two of them to Australia. That was a first for me.
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Old 07-31-2014, 01:56 PM   #22
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Has anybody heard anything about Tecma's they seem use them on most of the newer Nordies.
There was one on the new Ranger Tug that I recently chartered. I had no idea that I was in the market for a replacement, but after using the Techma, the Admiral has told me otherwise. The fully automatic, ultra quiet system (with programmed water volume to make it easy on guests) was very impressive.
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Old 07-31-2014, 03:52 PM   #23
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Has anybody heard anything about Tecma's they seem use them on most of the newer Nordies. We have two Raritan heads which I'm not sure of the models, but they work great! One thing to note though if you have a handle like the one pictured below make sure you service the spring every once and awhile, if you don't they'll start sticking. We had ours overflow because it stuck.Attachment 31685
We have two Tecma's on Fryedaze that are 10 years old and they work great. Last year I installed two entire vacuflush systems on a friends sailboat. I wouldn't trade my Tecmas for a vacuflush, too many parts.
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Old 07-31-2014, 05:20 PM   #24
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Hey Guys,

A related Vacuflush question. I have a VC on our sort of new to us boat. I replaced the duckbill valves when we bought the boat a year ago, but other than that, no real issues with ours.

My holding tank empties via a jabsco macerator pump, it has worked fine so far through pretty heavy use (not many pump out stations in the Bahamas) but I'm planning on buying a backup. The jabsco pump gets HORRIFIC reviews on the WM site though, so I'm considering going to a sealand T-series pump. I think this is the same pump, or at least similar, as the pump on my VC, which is a good thing.

But I don't think the sealand pump macerates. Not to be too graphic, but it seems to me that the waste in my holding tank is macerated after it comes out of the VC and before I send it through the macerator pump. Does a vacuflush system macerate?
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Does a vacuflush system macerate?
Yes.

Good call on getting rid of the Jabsco pump and replacing it with the Sealand.
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Old 07-31-2014, 05:54 PM   #26
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Yes.

Good call on getting rid of the Jabsco pump and replacing it with the Sealand.
Ditto. Environmental Marine in Ft Lauderdale is the place to get it. Great service and knowledge.
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Old 07-31-2014, 06:26 PM   #27
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Our VF is almost 30 years old and other than a few duckbills/bowl seals it has never caused a problem. Only once an lady operator error.......
I would buy another one.
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Old 08-01-2014, 02:01 PM   #28
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Do you have to use a special TP for VF heads?
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Just good old Costo TP..........
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Hey Kevin, you do know there is a cruise spare part kit for your VFs? No need to carry a second head......Still have a bucket ready, just in case!!
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Do you have to use a special TP for VF heads?
No. In fact you should not have to use any special TP for any modern head. Or most older heads for that matter.

All you do is take 1 sheet of any TP you are thinking about using and put it in a jar of water with a top on it. Shake the jar hard 5 times. If the sheet of TP is broken up after 5 shakes, it's good to go.
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We just used anything labeled "septic safe". Mostly the cheapest Scott stuff from Sam's/Costco. Just fold it over a few times if that's your thing. Put a little extra water in the bowl and use about all you want. Which was SOP in our case.
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Old 08-01-2014, 04:08 PM   #33
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Hey Kevin, you do know there is a cruise spare part kit for your VFs? No need to carry a second head......Still have a bucket ready, just in case!!
problem is I do not want to be fixiing one of these things during a cruise.
On my boat they are tucked in places you cannot work on them. The only way is to remove them if they dont work.

If i keep the vacuuflush ill be buying a spare vg2 complete generator. that way i can quickly swap out a defective one and service it later
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Old 08-01-2014, 07:10 PM   #34
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Tecmas are very good heads. They will pump both vertically and horizontally better then most any other head out there.

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Old 08-01-2014, 08:06 PM   #35
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Suit yourself by all means (can't have too many spares IMO, heck I had a full set including pump for my split systems, all of which are pristinely new to this day), but I am having a hard time envisioning your installation wherein it easier to pull the whole thing out, especially a VG2, and replace rather than repair such a simple system... plus there is so little to go wrong if used anywhere near properly...

Only one head on board?
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Old 08-01-2014, 08:37 PM   #36
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Kevin,

I'm sort of in the same situation as you. Have 2 vacuflush systems that are 13 years old with little or no preventive maintenance and lesser quality poop hose. Decided to replace all the hose which cost a little over $300 for a roll of Tridents best. The rebuild kits for the 2 pumps was around $128 per pump for valves, new bellows, and o-rings.

Ran 50 gallons of water through each system and a little bleach in the water at the very end. With the fill water turned off, I ran each head dry for a few minutes. When I disassembled each system there was maybe a gallon of water to catch. Smell wasn't significant. Figure I will stock the parts for one toilet and service them as needed. Dealing with a pump problem was my biggest fear if the line was full of poop. If you throughly flush the system, it's really not bad to work on. Will probably repeat the process to change the valves every 2 years. Will likely stock a spare set (4) of valves and maybe 1 pump motor.

One modification I did to my system was to install a 1/4 turn PVC ball valve just after my pump so that I won't have to drain the lines going from the pump to the holding tank. In fact, I can't imagine why you wouldn't want that valve just after any head pump. Lot less mess potential when fixing a broken pump.

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