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Old 08-12-2013, 02:11 PM   #21
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Boat brokerage is like real estate sales with the possibility of drowning.
I actually like the broker but this has definitely put a strain on our relationship.
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Old 08-12-2013, 03:49 PM   #22
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I can't believe this but the mechanic I hired to work on my boat ripped me off.

JEM Marine in Stuart, Fl.

Be Ware.

and it probable will not be the last. I find private yards, that don't allow others and/or you to work on the boat are the biggest. As they figure once they go you on the hard that got you.
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Old 08-12-2013, 04:43 PM   #23
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I'm not taking this lying down. He was noticed today via email and tomorrow it goes out certified mail.
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Old 08-12-2013, 08:13 PM   #24
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I'm not taking this lying down. He was noticed today via email and tomorrow it goes out certified mail.
I may not be the brightest bulb in the harbor but I can't figure out what you said in the above post.

Please explain in more than one or two sentences so an old f*rt like me can figure it out.
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Old 08-12-2013, 08:17 PM   #25
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Be nice if the recommending broker got involved and helped get things sorted out, but a recommendation isn`t a guarantee of the mechanic`s work, the mechanic is responsible if things are wrong.
It`s not easy finding good marine service people, even good ones can go bad. Sales people good at detail follow up are rare in my experience.
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Old 08-12-2013, 08:35 PM   #26
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Be nice if the recommending broker got involved and helped get things sorted out, but a recommendation isn`t a guarantee of the mechanic`s work, the mechanic is responsible if things are wrong.
It`s not easy finding good marine service people, even good ones can go bad. Sales people good at detail follow up are rare in my experience.
He was sent a copy of the notice. We'll see what happens.
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Hopefully you paid via credit card? You could always reverse the charges and put it back on him if his work wasn't up to "standard" in your area you might have something to go on. In the mean time you have jobs that you want completed correctly. I would of course question whether he was capable of finishing the jobs correctly to begin with. With as much as you have mentioned I'm not sure if I would have him aboard again.
Maybe well document the situation, pictures, video and have a new tech write down his findings prior to beginning any work. It really does hurt when you have to take your time and efforts to correct what should have been done correctly the first time. If he stands behind his work he should offer to complete the jobs as hired and compensate you for having to have him back. (But that rarely happens)

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He was sent a copy of the notice. We'll see what happens.
beachbum, what "notice" are you referring to?
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Did the guy you hired do the work or did he farm the job out to someone else?

Point being this fellow came recommended. by someone you trusted.

Seen this kind of stuff happen before. You get good at what you do and everyone wants your services till you can't take anymore. So it gets farmed out.
Just thinking out loud.

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beachbum, what "notice" are you referring to?
A demand for services and parts.
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Did the guy you hired do the work or did he farm the job out to someone else?

Point being this fellow came recommended. by someone you trusted.

Seen this kind of stuff happen before. You get good at what you do and everyone wants your services till you can't take anymore. So it gets farmed out.
Just thinking out loud.

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Him and his crew did the work.
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Time for a new crew,

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A few connections using butt connectors not shrink fittings.

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It's been my experience that many places don't use shrink fitting unless expected to get wet or underwater....unless specified in the work order you will be hard pressed to demand wiring with normal butts be redone...unless the guy is a really good guy.
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It's been my experience that many places don't use shrink fitting unless expected to get wet or underwater....unless specified in the work order you will be hard pressed to demand wiring with normal butts be redone...unless the guy is a really good guy.
Incorrect. Any electrical connection in the marine environment needs to be sealed due to the high rate of humidity which will corrode the connection causing a short.

This is the way I was taught and this was conveyed to him.

Anything in the bilge must be sealed. This isn't a galley cabinet connection.
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Incorrect. Any electrical connection in the marine environment needs to be sealed due to the high rate of humidity which will corrode the connection causing a short.

This is the way I was taught and this was conveyed to him.

Anything in the bilge must be sealed. This isn't a galley cabinet connection.
OK...so the last 4 marine places I worked didn't ever use plain old butts without sealing them and they haven't been working just fine for the last decade either....

What you were taught and what happens at many places doesn't happen every place.

Think what you like...good luck...I hope you have it in writing.
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OK...so the last 4 marine places I worked didn't ever use plain old butts without sealing them and they haven't been working just fine for the last decade either....

What you were taught and what happens at many places doesn't happen every place.

Think what you like...good luck...I hope you have it in writing.
This is minor compared to charging for parts never installed.

Please reread thread.

I'm not going to spend a lot of money on this. My time is too precious.
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This is minor compared to charging for parts never installed.

Please reread thread.
I would be upset too based on your posts...just saying there is no real industry standard for many things to hold the guy to if it isn't in writing.

Sure missing parts, work not performed...etc.. etc...just like good mechanics always leave the old parts out for inspection....but not all do.

Easier to hold him to and anything else that is in writing.
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I would be upset too based on your posts...just saying there is no real industry standard for many things to hold the guy to if it isn't in writing.

Sure missing parts, work not performed...etc.. etc

Easier to hold him to and anything else that is in writing.
I'm still holding $1,300 of his bill.

I've been a contractor way too long not too...
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Who was overseeing the work? That is who is responsible! I cannot believe a small businessman would let you leave without paying in full, if your vessel is documented, watch out for a lien!
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