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Old 03-02-2013, 01:01 PM   #1
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The ultimate trawler

How would you build the ultimate trawler - with all your thought provoking idea's and discussion, include pictures, also what size should the ultimate Trawler be? Does size matter?

Below are links that serve as springboards or starting places for this dialog. One of the vessels is a sailboat, but the way this partcular boat came into being is amazing and worthy in this dialog forum.

The Ultimate Best Cruising Sailboat Yacht - Pilothouse, Lifting Keel, Dinghy Garage, Luxury, AeroRig, "FOR SALE" - The Best Sailboat, The Best Sailing Yacht, The Best Cruising Sailboat, The Best World Cruiser, The Best Bluewater Passagemaker

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Old 03-02-2013, 01:19 PM   #2
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Everybody's "perfect trawler" will be different ... WAY different lots of the time. Ever heard of a perfect mate? House? There are millions of them all. It's the owners that are different.

Perhaps someone should start a computer dating service but w potential skippers and boats. I wonder if my "match" would be my Willard 30 or one of the other boats I lust after?
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Old 03-02-2013, 01:53 PM   #3
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Two different designs come to mind to me depending on my mood:

Nauticat 441

and

Luxury Yacht, Yachts for Sale, Brokerage, Fleming Yacht, Corvette Yachts - Chuck Hovey Yachts

Depends on the definition of "trawler". I think we are really talking about "yachts". I love the concept of the motorsailor, but sure love the quality built into the Fleming boats.

Not sure I'd bother to build my own with so many cool boats already designed by some pretty good naval architects.

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Old 03-02-2013, 02:02 PM   #4
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I think the perfect trawler is one that makes a lot of money.

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Old 03-02-2013, 02:17 PM   #5
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Greetings,
Mr. Mid'. I think you've got your answer in the reply by Mr. mb. Even if one designs and builds one's own trawler there will be compromises unless you get terribly foolish and include ALL possible options. Two galleys (one up, one down), Multiple engines (with the ability to run on one or several) and heaven forbid, at LEAST 15 anchors and associated rode etc.
Mr. mb. Even better than a dating service, how about a multiple choice questionnaire computer program listing all possible configurations and sizes of vessels. One could plug in one's desires, push a button and walla-a vessel (make and model) that meets most or all of your choices.
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Old 03-02-2013, 02:26 PM   #6
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So if I'm dreaming, and I'm basing this on what I know now (which isn't much), I'd like:

1.) Stand-up engine room.
2.) Semi-displacement hull...not sure about this yet though.
3.) Capable of up to maybe 12-15knts max (semi-displacement of course).
4.) Mid master berth
5.) Correct sized engines. For the speeds above, probably a couple of 130 or 150 HP diesels. I believe it would be enough to push her to those speeds. Not sure though. Would like to have John Deere's (Luggers). If the hull is displacement, then a couple of 75HP's or so.
6.) If twins, then twin skegs to protect props & rudders
7.) 38-42 feet
8.) 1000+ mile range
9.) Some type of get home capability if single engine

Example of some of the criteria met in a boat:

Great Harbor Trawlers

Really like George's designs too.

462 Seahorse Diesel Duck

So yeah as long as I'm dreamin', something like this.
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Old 03-02-2013, 02:48 PM   #7
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Ultimate for what purpose? Where are you going and who is going with you and how fast do you want to get there and what is your comfort tolerance and once you are there what are you going to do and how rich are you and what are your seamanship and mechanical skills? Just to get started...
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Greetings,
A bit big but....
http://www.yachtworld.com/core/listing/boatMergedDetails.jsp?boat_id=2564460&ybw=&units=F eetĄcy=USD&access=Public&listing_id=57029&url=
Too bad they don't make 'em new.
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Old 03-02-2013, 03:08 PM   #9
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How would you build the ultimate trawler - with all your thought provoking idea's and discussion, include pictures, also what size should the ultimate Trawler be? Does size matter?

Below are links that serve as springboards or starting places for this dialog. One of the vessels is a sailboat, but the way this partcular boat came into being is amazing and worthy in this dialog forum.

The Ultimate Best Cruising Sailboat Yacht - Pilothouse, Lifting Keel, Dinghy Garage, Luxury, AeroRig, "FOR SALE" - The Best Sailboat, The Best Sailing Yacht, The Best Cruising Sailboat, The Best World Cruiser, The Best Bluewater Passagemaker

Grand Banks 42 Heritage Motor Yacht | Grand Banks 42 For Sale
It's a nice thought provoking exercise....however the "utimate" trawler would NOT be the very moment you got underway in it on your first cruise.

Actually...usually once built...still in the yard, right after it tuned from a aper design to reality is when you notice the 1000 flaws in her...kinda like people...it's what you can live with that matters...
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Old 03-02-2013, 03:50 PM   #10
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Mr RT!

I assumed that's how it would work. Feed the computer w all the information from the boater and the perfect boat would be just a click away.
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Old 03-02-2013, 03:55 PM   #11
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The ultimate trawler could be this one
nordhavn 55 - Google Search

or this one
Passagemaker Lite 5602 - Tad Roberts' fast, seaworthy, fuel-efficient long-range passagemaker
Depends on what were my finaly cruising plans. Either way these two would fit perfectely. However, not as perfect as mine will be!
Flickr: Rainha Jannota's Photostream

I don't have all that I want, but I really want all that I have!

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Old 03-02-2013, 04:31 PM   #12
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Not sure I'd bother to build my own with so many cool boats already designed by some pretty good naval architects.

I'm with you.
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She'll be called Tardis......about 15' LOA on the outside and around 55' inside. This keeps moorage, haulouts, paint, and other costs rather low. Nuclear power I think, unlimited power (and speed) if required, also unlimited range and no worries about where the next fuel dock might be. The batteries will always be charged with no concern for running them flat, and the powerplant would produce unlimited fresh water as well (from waste heat)......

A bit of development work required, but it's doable........
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The ultimate boat is parked in my berth.

The ultimate wife shares it with me.

The ultimate children tag along with us wherever we go.

The ultimate cruising grounds are located where our boat is kept.

Just my opinion, your mileage may vary
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The ultimate boat is parked in my berth.

The ultimate wife shares it with me.

The ultimate children tag along with us wherever we go.

The ultimate cruising grounds are located where our boat is kept.

Just my opinion, your mileage may vary
Right on craig. Wait how can you have the ultimate in your berth when I have it in mine??
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Uh oh.....I don't like where this is going....Change of subject for the purposes of propriety.... sanger.dk
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Old 03-02-2013, 07:20 PM   #17
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YES CRAIG

We had the whole world to choose from and we have chosen.

But I chose my ex-wife too.

Two perfect wife's?
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Old 03-02-2013, 08:14 PM   #18
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I was really excited to get home today to read all the responses. I like the way all of you think! The motorsailer is very enticing. The fleming is so nice. The almagamation of these thoughts in the collective group are fantastic~ Everyone has wonderful thoughts and many ideas. Lets toss in a few veribles....what boat designers (living) would be numeral uno, what hull type, what hull material to make the hull and why? Does size mater? What is an optimal beam - My philosophy - less is better, quality and comfort is essential.
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Either one of these would suite me just fine.


Offshore Yachts - 58' 62' Pilothouse

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