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Old 07-20-2013, 09:41 PM   #161
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That sure is a beautiful boat and may be my idea of the perfect trawler for a couple, but I may be a bit one sided .

Beautiful, and looks very comfortable.


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Old 07-22-2013, 06:00 PM   #162
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... it appears to me that MANY of the trawler designs 40' and under try to place a big master stateroom in the rear, thus taking up that place of a bigger saloon area opening out onto a covered aft deck.

To me this arrangment on the Prilgrim 40 is much more appealing, particularly for a live-aboard
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Welcome Dan, We have a large flybridge, but the nicest place to eat drink and chat is the cockpit, with instant access to the cabin. Some trawlers have a longer cabin which makes cockpit sitting area too small.
I agree Dan, as I look thru a number of designs, something I noticed about quite a number of trawlers under 40'....the rear deck cockpits too small to really be of use (maybe squeeze in 2 deck chairs ) ,...and often not covered.

Here's a version of the aft deck on a Pilgrim, just off the sliding doors to the saloon
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Old 07-25-2013, 02:37 PM   #163
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I actually have yet to actually board one of these vessels, but hopefully that will change tomorrow when I visit an owner in Annapolis who has invited me aboard.
I visited two of these vessels this past weekend, and I'm as impressed as I was before. I'll give a little run down soon.
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Trumpy-Mathis 'houseboat yachts'

Meanwhile I'll make a cross reference to a posting I meant to put in this discussion, but by accident put it over here:
Trawler Forum - View Single Post - Any Pilgrim 40 Owners out there

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Trumpy-Mathis 'houseboat yachts'
Please don't take this as scariledge, but I can't help but think that the designer of the Pilgrim 40 canal-trawler certainly had in mind's eye these older Trumpy-Mathis designs when he created this design,....he was just restrained to a 40' foot length vessel.
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Old 08-13-2013, 07:51 PM   #165
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This is my new favorite trawler. Not sure if it is a trawler, but it is a motorsailor for sure.
"ubu" Hans Christian 44 - a set on Flickr
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Well now...that Hans Christian is really something. Could definitely be a candidate for the ultimate trawler. I also found this controversial Pioneer 40 RPH hiding in the archives.
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Old 08-14-2013, 01:09 AM   #167
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Well now...that Hans Christian is really something. Could definitely be a candidate for the ultimate trawler. I also found this controversial Pioneer 40 RPH hiding in the archives.
Could that be some sort of photo shopped vessel?

Sure looks like it may have been built on a Pilgrim hull
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This is my new favorite trawler. Not sure if it is a trawler, but it is a motorsailor for sure.
"ubu" Hans Christian 44 - a set on Flickr
I'm with you on that, Bligh. I love the looks for some reason.

I only wish my boat had the same bluewater capabilities as the HC.
I haven't yet put Kokanee fully to the test, but somehow I can't see it being in the same league.

Here's another one.
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Could that be some sort of photo shopped vessel?

Sure looks like it may have been built on a Pilgrim hull
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You haven't been around long enough to know Healhustler. He photo shops many of the boats that are the thread topics. He is the master at giving the boat a "makeover" for anyone interested. I think he missed his calling. Luckily we get him to work cheap!
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OK, guys here is my entry into the ultimate trawler fray. Eric (manyboats) and I have been discussing this one by PM. I have always admired Seaton's boats, and have toyed with the idea of this one. She is steel, 110,000#, and 6 1/2' draft. A little much for East Coast cruising, but a great boat. Have at it.

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You guys are obviously not familiar with the prestigious line of Pioneer boats. Each time I publish a picture here, someone yells "PhotoShop"! Shown here is the more conservative and tasteful Pioneer "Pilot".
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So THAT's what I'm looking at one dock over. Wondered if it was a Hans Christian. Sorry about the dull photo - miserable day here in Campbell River today.
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OK, guys here is my entry into the ultimate trawler fray. Eric (manyboats) and I have been discussing this one by PM. I have always admired Seaton's boats, and have toyed with the idea of this one. She is steel, 110,000#, and 6 1/2' draft. A little much for East Coast cruising, but a great boat. Have at it.

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OK, guys here is my entry into the ultimate trawler fray. Eric (manyboats) and I have been discussing this one by PM. I have always admired Seaton's boats, and have toyed with the idea of this one. She is steel, 110,000#, and 6 1/2' draft. A little much for East Coast cruising, but a great boat. Have at it.

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Have been a fan of that one since it was featured in the 3rd edition of Voyaging Under Power; at that time it was called Sluggo. I've seen a half completed version (more likely 10%) advertised on Yachtworld for sale in the last few years.

You could go anywhere with that vessel, and look good while you're at it.
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You guys are obviously not familiar with the prestigious line of Pioneer boats. Each time I publish a picture here, someone yells "PhotoShop"! Shown here is the more conservative and tasteful Pioneer "Pilot".
Okay, so I know that this one off Pioneer from the HH Custom Yard in Florida has some elements of a Pilgrim and a Hans Christian Independence, but does it have any other nautical influences?
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OK, guys here is my entry into the ultimate trawler fray. Eric (manyboats) and I have been discussing this one by PM. I have always admired Seaton's boats, and have toyed with the idea of this one. She is steel, 110,000#, and 6 1/2' draft. A little much for East Coast cruising, but a great boat. Have at it.

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That link did not work for me this morning (Thailand time).

Might help if you posted a photo or two as well, as many of these brokerage listings eventually go away, and thus forever a dead link.
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Okay, so I know that this one off Pioneer from the HH Custom Yard in Florida has some elements of a Pilgrim and a Hans Christian Independence, but does it have any other nautical influences?
You certainly know your trawlers, Conrad. Yes, those two influences, combining the blandly simple Chereubini 43 cabin and that classic Pilgrim hull with only subtle freeboard mods. I imagined a raised pilothouse version would make space for my stand-up engine room, but we can both see that the house is way too far forward. So, if we don't want 25 ft. prop shafts, I guess the solution would have to be this last one below, the Pioneer "Gambler". I'm here in Stuart, FL on my boat, and playing with this in the evening has been a great relief from working in all day heat.
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That link did not work for me this morning (Thailand time).

Might help if you posted a photo or two as well, as many of these brokerage listings eventually go away, and thus forever a dead link.
Sorry Brian, but the pictures from Yachtworld won't copy. The Yachtworld site was having some problems a little earlier. Maybe it will work for you better now. If the link doesn't work, go to yachtworld.com put in Seaton and scroll down the the MOJO.
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Yes Don Yes can you do that?

I remember Seaton's "sluggo" in Voyaging Under Power. Seaton's boats are very recognizable .. distinctively his. His boats have a distinctive correctness about them like the Atkins boats. Surfing the Atkin boat plans site is like going to a boat design concert. I can spend time drinking in the lines of boats I normally don't even like. Types of boats like sailboats. Bolger too but his designs are mostly for interest sake .. so many unusual boats and most or all still have merit.

Thanks for posting Don and I really am looking for those pics.

Don the original Mojo link works fine for me on an i-mac on Safari
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Sorry Brian, but the pictures from Yachtworld won't copy. The Yachtworld site was having some problems a little earlier. Maybe it will work for you better now.
Thanks, I'll try that. BTW, often wondered why boat pics on Yachtworld are no longer 'savable'. Just started a new subject thread on this rather than digress from subject of this thread.
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