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Old 03-24-2013, 10:29 PM   #121
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Seaton's boats aren't lookers but great boats if you like heavy for heavy's sake.
Well I do own two LandCruisers, (and they're darn good looking too).
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Old 03-25-2013, 05:03 PM   #122
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Well I do own two LandCruisers, (and they're darn good looking too).
are they the old ones with the six banger that seems identical to the old gm six used in its 1950 pickups?
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Old 03-26-2013, 05:38 PM   #123
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only complaint I would have is the slip fees because of her length

If you want a long range fuel efficient boat they tend to be long and narrow with a low center of gravity. High slip fees is not a big priority. However, eing the Eagle is long and narrow the square ft is more fair if there are two boats next to each other. The wider boat should have to pay more.

The boat described is some what close to my idea and what your boat and the Eagle sort of are. The narrow beam is a must to have a low air draft and a center of gravity. However, it sounds like you want a boat that can cross and ocean and due the canals/water ways? 2000 to 2500 gallon of fuels is more than enough to cross an ocean. Plus large tanks suck, as either the fuel does no get used/turned and/or the space could be used for other things. For example storage to cloths and shoes.

I agree on the flat bottom to stand up is a must. I emailed Kraten to see if he was going to be at the Anacortes Trawler Fest. He look at the 58 and he thinks the Eagle would heel but not roll over as the bottom is relative flat and other have said the same thing. But I am sort of planning on grounding the Eagle again. Happen once will probable happen again.

Sails on a trawler also interested me. Some brands offer as an option, more for increase range and maybe get home. The 58 originally had a forward mast, and one 58 added longer masts and sails. Last I heard it was down in Panama Canal area. Anyway, I had a local rigor look at it, but the cost of 20 to 30 grand was not worth it to be added to a Dock Queen.



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Old 04-04-2013, 01:42 PM   #124
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I tried a search but didn't get any hits. Certainly an impressive vessel. Thanks for the info Ron.
Back to post #105. Britt, I was reading my latest issue of Passagemaker and notice an ad by Seaton Yachts that shows the Coaster on the east coast is still for sale if you are interested.

This is the Yachtworld link:

2003 A.F. Theriault & Son Power Boat For Sale - www.yachtworld.com

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Old 04-04-2013, 05:00 PM   #125
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Old 04-04-2013, 06:51 PM   #126
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I checked out this boat at TrawlerFest. NICE! But, $375k? Wow.
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Old 04-07-2013, 06:21 PM   #127
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I checked out this boat at TrawlerFest. NICE! But, $375k? Wow.
Hey, we were at Trawlerfest too and saw the same boat. Nice boat, but agree on price - that's what we call an "awfully proud" owner.

Did you see that Florida riverboat with the flat bottom? Looked like a house. Not supposed to tip over, but heard that they have.
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Old 04-07-2013, 06:24 PM   #128
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http://www.yachtworld.com/boats/1991...s#.UWHxmGt5mK0

This is it. They're quite proud themselves.
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Old 04-08-2013, 06:19 PM   #129
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http://www.yachtworld.com/boats/1991...s#.UWHxmGt5mK0

This is it. They're quite proud themselves.
That's kinda fugly.

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Old 04-08-2013, 07:13 PM   #130
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That's kinda fugly.
You're too kind! Really!
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Old 04-08-2013, 07:24 PM   #131
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Did you see that Florida riverboat with the flat bottom? Looked like a house. Not supposed to tip over, but heard that they have.
Well, almost no boats are supposed to turn over, some have, up to and including 290m long cruise ships. No vessel is immune from capsize. Some Coast Guard and Pilot vessels are designed to survive capsize, but it's not easy or simple.

Due to their great beam the Florida Bay Coasters designed by Jay Benford will have greater than average stability at low angles. The boat will not heel as you move around on deck, unlike most average production cruisers. It takes a lot more force to heel a FBC one degree than the average production cruiser. Thus they can safely carry a great deal more windage in the form of superstructure.
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Old 04-08-2013, 07:39 PM   #132
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With one of those I just wouldn't go out of the calm water.
Just my opinion.
May as well buy a waterside condo.
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Pics of the sunk Florida Bay Coaster

Ok, here is a site reference. Evidently it had some rough weather in the Magothy River and swamped/capsized.

Shame. The one at Trawlerfest is a pretty boat. Very house-like.

Not sure of the specific conditions, but reading it seemed quite stormy.
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Old 04-08-2013, 08:48 PM   #134
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That's just sick.
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Exceptional boats by an exceptional designer...

Read up on Benfords' designs and ideas before you think that boat is unstable....

Tad Roberts said it well...

I'd rather be on a FBC in the slop than most of the production boats I've driven/rode... including my own.
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Sigh. Haven't we done this before recently? The FBC that did sink had a loose 8D battery in the steering compartment come loose and move it's shaft seal faces allowing a large ingress of water.

The root cause of the sinking had not much to do with it's stability curve. It was a lesson in free surface effect.

Here is the curve of a 45' coaster done with an inclining test. Has your boat had an inclining test? Do you know it's righting arm?
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I didn't say they were unstable, I said they were fugly. I went aboard one at trawler fest. It would make a very nice live aboard, but I'd be scared to leave the harbor if there were whitecaps outside the breakwater. I don't like their flat bottoms and I think they would pound if they were caught in heavy seas. There are just not on my short list of boats I'd want to own.
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Old 04-08-2013, 09:34 PM   #138
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I'd prefer a V-bow in open waters.

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not flat bottomed where it needs to be...definitely different looking but exceptionally well designed for it's purpose...
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"The FBC that did sink had a loose 8D battery in the steering compartment come loose and move it's shaft seal faces allowing a large ingress of water."

Usually its simply a failure of the rubber that allows far more water to enter than most boats pumping system can not remove.

These seals are probably the most dangerous item on most boats .
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