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Old 08-26-2015, 02:51 AM   #81
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The vessel I'm currently driving is definitely aesthetically challenged. It helped a bit when we decided to get away from the bloody stool color, but not much. She's ugly. Great personality, though.

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Why is the tower needed? I don`t see our harbor tugs with rigs like that.
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Old 08-26-2015, 03:51 AM   #82
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that looks like it would be fun in a beam sea!
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We're almost always mated to the barge, so that helps with stability. On the rare occasion when we're light tug, she's definitely tender, haha. She's actually pretty comfortable everywhere but the pilothouse, which is like being at the end of a tuning fork. Due to the way that the tug is attached to the barge, the pilothouse tends to rattle and lurch in a fairly unpleasant way.

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Why is the tower needed? I don`t see our harbor tugs with rigs like that.
They added the tree house in 2006 when they mated the tug to this particular barge. The extra height was needed to see over the unloading system on the aft end of the barge.
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Old 08-26-2015, 04:06 PM   #83
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Dave, no lower helm for those "other times"? I hope that's an elevator shaft I see.
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Old 08-26-2015, 04:56 PM   #84
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The vessel I'm currently driving is definitely aesthetically challenged. It helped a bit when we decided to get away from the bloody stool color, but not much. She's ugly. Great personality, though.

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Several years ago when the discussion of homely tugboats came up I actually googled your fine vessel
And I then posted it on GCaptain as a prime example. Sorry......
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Old 08-26-2015, 06:09 PM   #85
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Well, I guess single-handing that sucker isn't gonna happen. How many crew, Dave?
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Old 08-27-2015, 01:04 AM   #86
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Dave, no lower helm for those "other times"? I hope that's an elevator shaft I see.
Nope, no lower pilothouse on this one, and there's nothing but a spiral staircase in that tube. On the plus side, I've got legs like tree trunks after making that trip twice a day for the last three years.

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Several years ago when the discussion of homely tugboats came up I actually googled your fine vessel
And I then posted it on GCaptain as a prime example. Sorry......
No apologies needed! I would have done the same thing... haha. She's so ugly she could be a modern art masterpiece!

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Well, I guess single-handing that sucker isn't gonna happen. How many crew, Dave?
Naa, my arms are way too short for that! Actually she's pretty handy. She's got a really cool rudder system that basically lets you walk the stern in any direction. That combined with a decent bow thruster, and she's pretty easy to drive, really. We tie her up with a deck crew of 4. We carry 13 crew in total.
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Old 08-27-2015, 01:46 PM   #87
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Dave, no lower helm for those "other times"? I hope that's an elevator shaft I see.

Like on my companies vessels, the companies doing these 'tug conversions' to ATB units have generally done away with the two wheelhouse idea. It saves about 250,000 bucks in less electronics, controls and steelwork.

The down side is that when running just the tug from up top is like being on the top of a long pendulum. The smallest amount of rudder is magnified hugely up that high.

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However during the conversion process the main (lower) wheelhouse was left intact.
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They have actually turned some of our tugs' lower pilothouses into sleeping quarters, since we run a larger crew than the previous owners. I believe my height of eye is 75-80 feet. Air draft is about 90. Yours is far from ugly, though. In fact, as far as tugs go, I'd say she's actually kinda pretty. I even like your peanut butter and jelly paint scheme Did they put elevators in yours?
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Did your company convert the Victory/ j Kuber? I worked on Victory in early '80's for 7 years.
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I know someone already posted Steve Jobs' yacht in this thread. I don't think I ever really looked at it for more than a few seconds. It really is awful, isn't it?


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Old 08-27-2015, 02:20 PM   #91
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Did your company convert the Victory/ j Kuber? I worked on Victory in early '80's for 7 years.
The owners before us did the conversion. They turned that lower pilothouse into cabins for the first and second mate. I've never been aboard that one.
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This one passed us a few years back and it was pretty shocking to the eye - mainly because of the color scheme and patio furniture! It is a Great Harbour 47, made in Gainesville FL.

What I don't get about the 47 is that is has a displacement of 70,000 pounds but only draws 2' 10"?
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What I don't get about the 47 is that is has a displacement of 70,000 pounds but only draws 2' 10"?
Yup. You'd understand if you saw it out of the water. We had a GH 42 in our marina's yard for a few winters.
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IMO the N37 and N47 would look much better and be more practical if they would have added a raised pilothouse. Plenty of foredeck so it would look more balanced and would have given a larger salon area. But what do I know....
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IMO the N37 and N47 would look much better and be more practical if they would have added a raised pilothouse. Plenty of foredeck so it would look more balanced and would have given a larger salon area. But what do I know....
As I understand it the original Great Harbour N37 was designed to get its owners to South America, then go exploring up the Amazon...so shallow draft probably trumped too much weight up high.
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