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Old 03-04-2012, 02:13 PM   #1
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I read in a magazine that (as of sometime in 2010) it is*no longer*necessary for Coast Guard licensees to have a Twix. Is this true?

I let my 5th issue 100 ton expire last March 9th because I did not want to go*through the hassel of getting one.

Anyone know the straight scoop?


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Old 03-04-2012, 03:59 PM   #2
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RE: TWIC Card

TWICs are required at all US ports. i don't know about with captain registration but these are not going away.
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Old 03-04-2012, 05:06 PM   #3
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The TWIC card is only required to get you into secure locations without an escort. As stated above, all US Ports are considered 'Secure' locations.
Private ports where no special security is required should not require a TWIC.
All the deep water platforms and rigs in the Gulf of Mexico require TWIC cards. I'm not sure about the continental shelf locations.
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Old 03-04-2012, 05:16 PM   #4
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With all due respect, that is not my question. Before they made everyone with a CG license get one and now that may not be true.
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Old 03-04-2012, 05:27 PM   #5
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http://www.uscg.mil/nmc/marpers/pag/...icy_letter.pdf

Page 2 section 5 of this document may apply to your situation. Then again, maybe not.

I'm not fluent in legal.
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Old 03-04-2012, 06:18 PM   #6
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RE: TWIC Card

I just got my TWIC card, as I was told by my instructor it was necessary - as far as I know, they are still required for Master's lisc.
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Old 03-04-2012, 07:23 PM   #7
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RE: TWIC Card

Read what CPseudonym kindly posted...should answer your question odr call the NMC's 800 number...going to the source for info is very easy these days.

NEVER listen to (just) a captains school instructor ...heck many shouldn't even be teaching the course let alone be considered a source for up to date info.* Even calling the school or checking their website would be better.
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Old 03-04-2012, 07:35 PM   #8
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RE: TWIC Card

The requirements appear to be changing or may change. The simple answer is that you are subject to all the information gathering and back round check to get your initial licence but may not be required to get a TWIC if the vessel you are captaining doesn't require a "Vessel Security Plan". The change to the rules is still in process and may require legislative approval. So for now you are still required to have / get one.

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It's my understanding that for the initial issue of a C/G license a TWIC is always required. If your renewing your license, and won't work on a boat that requires a card, you no longer need to renew your card.* Should you let it expire and get an offer of a job in which one is required, you will have go through the application process again before taking the job.** This is information I read in a trade industry magazine, but you should contact the nearest regional exam center for accurate information......Arctic Traveller

Having read the above I think the only issue is if this policy is now in force, and I've been lead to believe it is.*


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Old 03-04-2012, 08:27 PM   #10
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I just got my USCG OUPV License in Dec.* A TWIC card was required (no hassle).

You can call the USCG National Maritime Center for the current requirements.* KJ

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Old 03-05-2012, 10:26 AM   #11
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I think that CPseudonym is correct about where it is addressed in law.

This is what I read on page 24 of the Feb. 2012 issue of Southern Boating:

"U.S. Coast Guard eases TWIC requirement for thousands of mariners"

"Section 809 of the USCG Re-Authorization Act of 2010 allows the Coast Guard to be exempt from holding a Transportation Worker Identification Card (TWIC) as well as those operating vessels not required to have a Vessel Security Plan, or who are not actively sailing on their Merchant Mariner documents. This action will affect an estimated 60,000 mariners, including those with Operator of Uninspected Vessel (6 pack) credentials."
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I think that CPseudonym is correct about where it is addressed in law.

This is what I read on page 24 of the Feb. 2012 issue of Southern Boating:

"U.S. Coast Guard eases TWIC requirement for thousands of mariners"

"Section 809 of the USCG Re-Authorization Act of 2010 allows the Coast Guard to be exempt from holding a Transportation Worker Identification Card (TWIC) as well as those operating vessels not required to have a Vessel Security Plan, or who are not actively sailing on their Merchant Mariner documents. This action will affect an estimated 60,000 mariners, including those with Operator of Uninspected Vessel (6 pack) credentials."
*That only applies to folks that are renewing their credentials.*******

All new apps still require a TWIC.**************** KJ
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Old 03-05-2012, 01:31 PM   #13
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So KJ, I have had my 100 ton since 1981.

I have never had a TWIC because it came into existance between my previous renewals.

In your opinion can I renew without*ever having*one?

I have ony 4 days until my one year grace period expires.




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So KJ, I have had my 100 ton since 1981.

I have never had a TWIC because it came into existance between my previous renewals.

In your opinion can I renew without*ever having*one?

I have ony 4 days until my one year grace period expires.


-- Edited by Doc on Monday 5th of March 2012 02:32:08 PM
*Better call NMC:

NMC Customer Service Center (CSC): 1-888-IASKNMC (1-888-427-5662) email (IASKNMC@uscg.mil)
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Old 03-05-2012, 04:05 PM   #15
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Following psneeld's advice went to the MNC web site. On the front page it says that everyone must have one no matter what.

Then I went to FAQ's and FAQ # 1 is'

(Q) Am I required to obtain a TWIC card?

Answer The Coast Guard is allowing mariners without a valid TWIC to acquire and renew an MMC if: the mariner is inactive; not operating under the authority of their credential; or sailing in a vessel that is not required to have a vessel security plan as defined in Policy Letter 11-15. (Reference Policy Letter 11-15(5)(a)).

So, I am not required to get one to renew. But since I don't know if I want to renew or not, I am going to apply for a Continuity Credential which puts everything into limbo until I decide what I want. If I fill out the form (from the MNC website) and mail it tomorrow it will be in Miami by Friday when my one year grace period expires. Did I say it was free?

I hate to give it up after all these years but I have never used it except to get an insurance discount. The license has always hung on the wall among my degrees, certificates and my picture shaking hands with the Emperor Bocassa.




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I*understand that the paperwork for*the Homeland Security background check for renewal*is about the same with or without a TWIC.******* KJ
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Old 03-05-2012, 05:23 PM   #17
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Old 03-06-2012, 12:45 PM   #18
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He must have eaten my brain. I was ready to fill out the form. It calls for the license to be sent to the CG for "safe keeping". When I took it off the wall I noticed that it expired 2 years ago and that my grace period expired 1 year ago. Sh*t!!
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Old 03-06-2012, 04:28 PM   #19
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Personally...from my perspective......the TWIC card was nothing more than a "scam" to collect $140 off a bunch of people. I've got one...and whats amazing is that I have almost never been asked for it...when entering ports by land or sea..... "Its little more than a hoser scheme" to generate revenue.....
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I have to have on for my job. It's pretty much universally required to enter any petrochemical plant, terminal, shipyard, etc. on the water. This in the Galveston bay / Gulf Coast area. I have a couple of friends who are delivery captains. They get asked for theirs on a pretty regular basis.
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