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Old 01-22-2014, 11:05 AM   #21
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Actually there are pretty good boats available for around the OP's price range.

Look no further than the Bayliner 38' models.

Great value for your money, and very good boats.

As others have said, just buy condition.
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Old 01-22-2014, 04:05 PM   #22
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If you are interested in a motorsailer, there are plenty to choose from out there. some have sails just for looks, some are serious blue water sailers. They aren't as trendy as trawlers, so there are some good deals out there.
A Pearson 365 pilothouse, which has a great fit out with all the comforts of a trawler, but still would sail well might be worth a look. I've seen them on YW for under 50k.
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Old 01-23-2014, 03:52 AM   #23
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This coming year I plan to retire. Have owned small boats all my life and now I intend on buying a 35-40 Foot Something and become a coastal Cruiser.
This has always been the plan of my wife and I .
I lost my wife last year so I must now do this alone. Here are my concerns and questions if you guys don't mind sharing your expertise.
I have decided to go with either a Trawler or a Motor Sailor
My decision was based on economical reasons alone. I will be doing this on a fixed income and plan on doing it for the rest of my life.
Here is what I think to be true at this point. A full displacement Trawler with a single diesel engine will give me a more comfortable boat and the fuel cost should be around the 2.00 an hour range.
The Sailor is not as nice as far as amenities Etc. but I could get .50 per hour cost of fuel. This is a huge difference over many miles.

So biggest question is do you guys have experience with both? Are my numbers correct? Since its now just me Im thinking I should go smaller on the boat size but I want to be comfortable .
I plan on making a home base on Gulf side of Florida and leaving for points South.
The other consideration is Even though I have been a boater for 40 years I have Never Ever Sailed. I would have to take lessons, go to a school !
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First question I'd have would be the $40,000 or $60,000, do you have that budgeted for purchasing the boat plus an amount for getting it ready for use? I would say most boats purchased in that price range require at least another 50% but more often 100% to get operable and ready for cruising safely.

Second, have you looked at the annual operating costs and what you can afford there?

Now that said, I'd encourage you toward a trawler. First more usable space in the same size boat. Second, if you're reached retirement age, in spite of what may be excellent health today, physical limitations and health issues do start to enter the equation. Many sailors keep sailing for another decade but others just as they hit retirement age find themselves making the switch from sail to power.

As others pointed out, your fuel costs assumptions were flawed. But then fuel is just a part of the cost of operating. Are you looking to live aboard or just use as a second residence?

Now, one other recommendation since you've never sailed. Go sailing. Charter or go with friends. Even if it's just some day sailing. But do more than just ride alone so that you can get a feel for the work involved. Don't underestimate the learning curve nor the effort. Also, just because there is savings on petroleum based fuel don't assume there are huge savings on maintenance. Sails and equipment can require significant maintenance expenditures.
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Old 01-23-2014, 06:55 AM   #24
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Old 01-23-2014, 10:35 AM   #25
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My 2 cents, be prepared to do a lot of plan B. Only having your budget and thinking you'll cruise the Caribbean might be out of reach. You will find many enjoyable days here in the US and meet lots of new friends. I think you can manage that and still be happy.

Comfort becomes valuable on the water. I'd look at trawlers and you have some great suggestions already.
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Old 01-23-2014, 10:47 AM   #26
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I concur with most of what had been said, especially bandb, who pointed out that living aboard a trawler is much nicer for a live abord.
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Old 01-23-2014, 11:03 AM   #27
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I concur with most of what had been said, especially bandb, who pointed out that living aboard a trawler is much nicer for a live abord.
Richard, you have recently been in the Exumas. To me that cruising is nearly as good as it gets. Prettier water and beaches are hard to find short of the Pacific islands. There are plenty of places that a coastal cruiser will reach. The venerable Krogen 42 is close to the ideal boat for that, and even passage making.
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Old 01-23-2014, 11:50 AM   #28
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Throwing an idea out there, how about a mid 30' fly bridge sportfisherman with lower helm, prices have really dropped on them, something like a Trojan or old Chris Craft?
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Don't overlook boats like Grand Banks and Fleming. I like old Hatteras MY's but they are much less fuel efficient than the trawlers. Sea Rays are as well but they could fit well in your price and amenity range.There are many Carver fans as well.
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Don't overlook boats like Grand Banks and Fleming. I like old Hatteras MY's but they are much less fuel efficient than the trawlers. Sea Rays are as well but they could fit well in your price and amenity range.There are many Carver fans as well.
The Hatterad long range cruisers, 42, 48, 58, & 65 are all great trawler vessels with long ranges very heavily built affordable dependable and has all the creature comforts. JUST A THOUGHT
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