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Old 08-31-2011, 11:25 PM   #21
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RE: Trawler vs. Houseboat

Houseboats are a lot of boat for the $$$, if you can get over their lack of a pointy bow. As previously stated, probably 95% of boaters could get by with a houseboat most of their boating time.
Personally I think the current bluewater cruisers are about the ugliest boats out there:

Tony, the premium river houseboats are going to be the Pluckybaum and perhaps the Harbor Master (coastal- the model that has the pointy bow and pilothouse). Summerset and Sharpe are probably the top 2 "regular" houseboat builders. On the river system I find quite a few houseboats that are diesel powered which is a great option. I'd probably buy one of the harbor master coastal's with diesels if they had older ones (cheaper ones) on the market.

But all things are a trade off....you loose some seaworthiness, you loose maybe a sense of class, etc. but you sure get a heck of a lot boat for the $$$. Most houseboaters though rarely leave the dock except under ideal conditions due to flat hull, low draft, and high windage.
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Old 09-01-2011, 03:54 AM   #22
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RE: Trawler vs. Houseboat

Thanks for all of the replys.
My main goal is to get out of the Gulf and move inland. Dodging hurricanes is gettin' old and we have potentially a 'big one' right now that is still not doing anything. Some expect it to grow into a monster when it hits the Gulf in the next few days. I am on first flight this morning to get back to land. Hurricane evacuations began yesterday morning on the deep water rigs and will continue all day today.
Right now the wind is 25-30K out here and yesterday it was only 5-8 knots. The day before that was flat calm.
Anyway, here is my plan..... Up north in the summer and down south in the winter. I like the Galveston Bay area and the only problem, which could be a big one is getting from New Orleans area to Mobile Bay to get to the Tenn-Tom waterway. This area is pretty much open all the way with a few barrier islands to block some of the wind. A houseboat, as I think of one, would not make the trip if unexpected weather kicked up. I guess I could just say "Bye Bye" to Texas. I don't have any real ties there except my woodworking business. I could just sell it off.
With a 2 weeks on/2 weeks off work schedule, I can live just about anywhere. A trawler is still my first choice and there were a few diesle houseboats on yachtworld.com.
If I don't sell my sailboat, I think I will just take it up to Kentucky Lake area.
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Old 09-01-2011, 04:27 AM   #23
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RE: Trawler vs. Houseboat

The Pilgrim 40 strikes me as a tiny but nifty Trumphy style house boat.

Great , cheap cruising on the ICW and other protected water.
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Old 09-01-2011, 05:47 AM   #24
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I know houseboats are built cheaply so I'll ask this question.......Since their bottoms are relatively flat, do the bottoms have a core or are they solid fiberglass?
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RE: Trawler vs. Houseboat

Tony,

I traded my 36' sailboat for a 32' Grand Banks.* I also own a 46' houseboat.* I kept it on Clear Lake for 5 years (in South Shore Harbour).* It was my "Kemah Kondo" and gave many days of fun times.* I moved it home to SW Louisiana recently.

Only 2 big negatives of the houseboat are seaworthyness and fuel consumption.* It would take a 3' wave fine but any bigger became a problem fast.* It got 1.5 mpg without the generator an 1.25 mpg with the generator.

Bottom line is you need to decide how and where you will be boating then decide what best fits your intended use.* ALL boats*are a compromise*and no one design is a do all.

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Old 09-01-2011, 11:56 AM   #26
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******** I'm sure there is! :frustrated:

Well, there is:

http://www.houseboatmagazine.com/fus...threadid=12179

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Wow, don't go to the houseboat tread. Some things can not be unseen....
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From time to time, I've had to appreciate someone engineering efforts in houseboat conversions. *This one was for sale in Ft. Lauderdale up until last year. *I dropped the guy a line to see it it was still available, but it is indeed, a unique boat. *Not sure how easy handling the lines, ground tackle or locking would be, but you can't do much more with a 28 ft. hull, and it's a Nauset hull on top of that. *I almost bought a 28 Nauset Bridgedeck some years ago, but it had a marinized GM 6.5 diesel that I didn't want any part of, but a very efficient hull with wonderful lines and great freeboard. *This conversion had a Nissan Diesel, I think.
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Ah, wait a minute. *Here's a close-up of the starboard bow quarter showing the ground tackle and handle-bar access around the sides. *Nice storage on the bow there, but I wonder if you can get to it from the helm area without crawling out the window. *Interesting though.
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From time to time, I've had to appreciate someone engineering efforts in houseboat conversions. *This one was for sale in Ft. Lauderdale up until last year. *I dropped the guy a line to see it it was still available, but it is indeed, a unique boat. *Not sure how easy handling the lines, ground tackle or locking would be, but you can't do much more with a 28 ft. hull, and it's a Nauset hull on top of that. *I almost bought a 28 Nauset Bridgedeck some years ago, but it had a marinized GM 6.5 diesel that I didn't want any part of, but a very efficient hull with wonderful lines and great freeboard. *This conversion had a Nissan Diesel, I think.
*Not that I have anything against a houseboat for inland waters...............

But they sure did get the name right on the above boat!

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Old 09-03-2011, 08:52 PM   #31
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I am baffled. I can't thing of one good thing to say about that boat. Cartoonists should not design boats!!!
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But cartoon boats are cute.* Love the fore-and-aft sailing rig.* Reminds me of mine.


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Carey...For sure, it is a cartoon boat. The testimony to it is that he started with a very good hull to begin with, and apparently went everywhere with it. True,...it's no boat for the PNW, but come down here in the Keys of Florida and you'll have an all new appreciation for it. Unlike most of what I've seen people living in down there, this could actually make it through some pretty tough weather, and if there was a big one coming and you couldn't make enough speed on the water, you throw it on the trailer. I love character boats. I've got one.
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Old 09-04-2011, 01:28 PM   #34
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The Manatees may fall into the character boat category, but not the cartoon category. They were clearly designed by a professional with a good eye.

The referenced cartoon boat actually is not a well executed cartoon design. As to the hull, it looks like a very nice lobster boat hull, and who can argue with that!!!
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This is not a character boat. A "character boat" has...., well....., character. This boat is appropriately named. Absolutely no thought has been given to looks. The only function this serves is to put as much stuff as possible in as small a place as possible. It looks top heavy so I will assume it is, not to mention the big boxy shape will be a windage problem.*To sum it up, this boat is butt ugly and would be*hard to give away, none the less sell, but for the right price everything*will eventually sell. *




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I owned a 1984 Gibson 50' houseboat for 22 years.* I used it to cruise the inland waterways.* I made a "mini-loop" from Pickwick Lake on the Tennessee River north to the Cumberland River then to the Ohio River then over to the Mississippi River to Memphis.* From there south to New Orleans then on to Mobile, AL.* From there north on the Tom Bigbee to Pickwick Lake which is at the confluence of the Tom* Bigbee and the Tennessee River.* The trip was approximately 2,000 miles.* This is a perfect use of the housenoat.* It is a boat for protected waters.* The Gibson has two 125 gallon tanks.* If you cruise at about 8 MPH the boat will get about 1.5 MPG.* The engines are gasoline.* On the Mississippi River, I found it necessary to carry supplemental fuel tanks on the deck.* I stored an additional 170 gallons in drums.* My boat had radar, which really came in handy on the Mississippi River.

I bought a 49' DeFever CPMY in May 2011.* My purpose for changing is that I want to do some off shore cruising to places like the Bahamas and Carribbean. It is not possible to do that in a houseboat.

Characteristically the houseboat is much more stable than the trawlers.* This results from the houseboat's typical flat bottom.* The 50' Gibson only draws 3 foot 6 inches so it can navigate in fairly shallow water, whereas my DeFever draws 5 feet.*

So, it all depends on what type cruising you wish to do.* If I were going to limit myself to the inland waters, I would have kept my houseboat.

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A trawler is still my first choice and there were a few diesle houseboats on yachtworld.com.
*Have you looked at the carri craft boats. Catamarans built by Cris craft.

A*few on Yachtworld. They have a sort of a cult following.

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Chuck

I am still looking for a trawler but now am also seriously considering a houseboat, thanks to you. The admiral was concerned about a houseboat not being up to the task, but since you mentioned New Orleans to Mobile Bay, she is a little more receptive to the idea. We have sailed from N.O. to Mobile Bay many times and it can get real rough quickly. As long as we watch the weather, I will now feel more confident. I noticed that there are also some diesel powered HB's on yachtworld that I have been looking at.

As for your gas engines, I guess you can run them steady all day long every day just like a car engine?

How did you carry the drums on your deck? Lashed together? Drum Rack?
Also, how did you fill your tanks from the drums? Hand Pumps?

Thanks in advance.


Skipperdude

I just looked them up on yachtworld.com and they are way out of my budget. Only one that is really really cheap and I get the impression that this a close to a total rebuild which is what I dont want at my age. Thanks for the info. Really wish I could afford one.

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TONY,

Very early in*this thread Boatel houseboats were mentioned.* They are made in Mora Mn.* That is about midway between Minneapolis and Duluth.* Not surprisingly they are fairly common here in Iowa on the Mississippi.* Here are a couple that call the same marina my boat is in home.* Styling is a personal thing, but they are certainly unique.
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When we made the trip from New Orleans to Mobile we waited for about a month*until we had three days forcast of less than 2' seas.* We made the trip in two days.* The frist was to Biloxi.* The seas were flat until the last two hours.* We then were in following seas with three feet waves.* I would not want to cruise in any more severe conditions.* About every third or fourth wave would wash over the deck.* The second day was perfect flat all day.*

I recommend the Gibson highly for the inland waters.* I don't recommend it for any extended coastal cruising.* The problem is that the waves can get up in short order and give real problems.

The engines in most Gibsons are Crusaiders.* These are real work horses.* You can run them 10 to 12 hours a day without problems.*

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