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Old 02-17-2018, 10:58 AM   #21
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Since I plan to buy an used boat, but not so old that would require a lot of work, wouldn't it be possible that in the end availability will dictate the choice between the two brands? At present I am searching the US East Coast only, for boats 2010 and newer.


Excellent point. If you have your heart set on a particular model, but can’t find one to buy, it doesn’t do much good.
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Old 02-17-2018, 11:06 AM   #22
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Old 02-17-2018, 11:13 AM   #23
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See what used boats he has in stock.


Does he handle boats other than AT? While I really love the ATs, I don’t think they would fit Pedro’s requirements.
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Old 02-17-2018, 11:24 AM   #24
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Pedro, Go to the boat shows. Here are 3 near you:
Miami February 15-20
Trawlerfest-Stuart, FL March 8-11
Palm Beach March 22-25
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here's one for you: Nordhavn 55 - Terrapin - Jeff Merrill Yacht SalesJeff Merrill Yacht Sales

Note: Jeff Merrill is one of the most knowledgeable people you'll find when it comes to trawlers, especially Nordhavns.


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Does he handle boats other than AT? While I really love the ATs, I don’t think they would fit Pedro’s requirements.
Guess you need to call him and find out.
Please tell him the owner of Kinja suggested you contact him.
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Old 02-17-2018, 02:30 PM   #27
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Are you following the 90/10 rule? Buy the boat for how you'll use it 90% of the time. We looked at NH and KK for a few years. Settled on the KK for 90% of the time we will not be in rough seas, far in open blue water, days from land. The KK should do fine crossing to Bermuda, the caribbean loop, maybe beyond, with a little weather planning, and perhaps toughing out a few bad circumstances over many years. The other 90% of days we're happy with the KK floor plan and ride.

Have friends that have had NH 55 and 64 and loved them.
I think though you can't necessarily stick to the 90/10 rule if your goal is crossing oceans. You must still find a boat capable of handling the 10%. Now, I think KK has boats that can.

Two comments on Nordhavn. They have many boats, especially in the 62' range, that have done a significant amount of ocean crossing so clearly very capable. However, they would also like for you to believe they're the only ones capable. KK is. I've seen a lot of Selene's that did. Then you get into builders like Outer Reef, Horizon, and Cheoy Lee that have the ability plus smaller builders like Bering who can build boats that can make crossings.

I would say to find a boat that will do what you want but make sure it's one that still is good for the 90%. If that 90% is the ICW then it eliminates larger Nordhavn's with 7' drafts.
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Since no one has asked yet, I'll be that guy! What's your budget?
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Since no one has asked yet, I'll be that guy! What's your budget?
Budget? He don't need a stinking budget.

That boat can, even at 9 knots, can outrun the payments LOL
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Budget? He don't need a stinking budget.

That boat can, even at 9 knots, can outrun the payments LOL
That's true!
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Well, since you asked, I am thinking something around US$ 1.6MM.
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With that budget, whatever you get is going to be very very nice. Good luck with your search.
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One of my problems will be: within that budget, do I go for newest or biggest? Like, I can get a pretty recent KK55 or a much older N65. I notice that the newest boats, most have active stabilisers and Bow & Stern thrusters, and a lot of older boats do not; since I probably will want the two, the decision process is beginning to take shape, I guess. My list is growing every time I sit to think about it.
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I wouldn’t worry about a stern thruster but a bow thruster would be a must. With the budget, id maybe think about keeping 10% of that for upgrades or improvements given it’s not a brand new boat. Please keep us posted and thanks for asking our input.
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Pedro, with your budget I'd retain a top 1% buyers agent or trawler expert. Maybe some folks on here can recommend a good guy from south Florida.
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Pedro,

I recommend Jeff Merrill, at JMYS.com, without reservation. Though he is based in Southern California, he is a class act and seems to be flying somewhere every time I speak to him. Jeff worked for Nordhavn prior to starting his own business. He is the kind of guy that will refer you elsewhere if feels he doesn't fit what you need.

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Wifey B: I'd recommend Pedro talk to more than one and interview them to see how comfortable he is with them. One in South Florida I would consider is Judy Waldman. She is very knowledgeable when it comes to the trawler world.

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One of my problems will be: within that budget, do I go for newest or biggest? Like, I can get a pretty recent KK55 or a much older N65. I notice that the newest boats, most have active stabilisers and Bow & Stern thrusters, and a lot of older boats do not; since I probably will want the two, the decision process is beginning to take shape, I guess. My list is growing every time I sit to think about it.


As I sure you already know, purchase price is just the beginning. There are some TF members here with really big boats and they might chime in, but if is was me, I would go newer and smaller. In the long run it likely will much less expensive to run, moor, and maintain.

You might ask around and see if there is any difference in ease of handling with a 10’ size difference.
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