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Old 01-27-2013, 07:06 PM   #21
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Here are the Dashews in Southwest Harbor Maine this summer when I spoke with them. The boat is incredible.
Daddy's, yes these Dashews are very nice, I believe they have 65' . Still out of my range but every come up with 45'-50' maybe interested. Who knows what the future holds

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Old 01-27-2013, 07:06 PM   #22
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The reality is that there are very few people interesting in making long trans-ocean voyages in powerboats. But lots of folks are interested in living aboard and cruising the edges of North America......So the market for a FPB or PL is really tiny.

The second run of FPB 64's was based at $3m, but you can buy a used Nordhavn 43 for a bunch less than $1m....it will take you to all the same places.....and think how much happier your wife will be with that $2m in the bank.....
Awww... I was gonna post similar but not many take an unpublished, non-NA too seriously....

Even if I could afford the boat...just the length would kill me on dockage and hauling...

I know quite a few other world cruisers ans the Dashew"sconcept is just but one....
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Daddy's, yes these Dashews are very nice, I believe they have 65' . Still out of my range but every come up with 45'-50' maybe interested. Who knows what the future holds

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She is actually 83'. The "small" one is 64'
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The Dashews were a joy to meet. They said they don't build boats for people they haven't met. I was happy to get that minor detail out of the way, just incase!!
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Watch some of the videos on the web site of the boat handling all sorts of nasty sea conditions.
I saw those videos, and was impressed, then I noticed the paravane booms in the photo's on this thread...

Does anybody else think the covered flying bridge destroys what would have been incredibly sleek lines?
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I'm impressed you got a pic of one of their rare dock visits
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We saw one of these Grey Ghost's this summer. I like the hull and the long and narrow design but that's about it.

And I don't see them as "trawler economy" at all. And if someone gave me one I couldn't afford to moor it. Interesting but that about it.

I assume it's not over powered and I'd like that too.
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I know quite a few other world cruisers ans the Dashew"sconcept is just but one....
OK, I'll bite. The others, that cruise at about 10 knots and get 2-3 nmpg are??
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Tom I think psneeld has something more meaningful in mind than MPG.
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OK, I'll bite. The others, that cruise at about 10 knots and get 2-3 nmpg are??
An Endeavour Catamaran Trawlercat will meet and exceed those numbers but does it at a fraction of the weight and minimum wetted surface hulls. PDQ and Seawind also, and for the same reasons.
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Old 01-27-2013, 11:44 PM   #31
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I saw those videos, and was impressed, then I noticed the paravane booms in the photo's on this thread...

Does anybody else think the covered flying bridge destroys what would have been incredibly sleek lines?
The flybridge?... no I think the overly tall windows do a pretty good job of killing the lines all by themselves. I don't really like the destroyer look, most pics taken of the boat at anchor or on the dock they usually have the shades pulled down. The boat has got to suffer from greenhouse effect in lower latitudes . There is also a false economy in a 85' boat that has the room of a 55' boat. It would take a lot of passage making to realize any economy. But then again there is no perfect boat... and we all need to be able to dream.
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I know this is going to sound petty, but I like a pretty boat.

I'm sorry, but at least to me, that boat is just not pretty.

This is a pretty boat, in the same price range and fully capable of world travel.




This is another pretty boat capable of world travel.




There are lots of examples of pretty boats out there. Boats that are capable, boats that are safe, boats that are more comfortable, or cheaper, and yes, much prettier.

I will say that for folks that want that kind of specialized passagemaker those are some very functional looking boats. For the job they are designed to do they look like they'll do it very well.
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But then again there is no perfect boat... and we all need to be able to dream.
Well, slap my ass and call me Judy! Truer words thar never be spoke
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but I'd like to see a comparison of purchase price per square foot of liveable space.

Mere volume does little for a boat unless its constantly dockside as a cottage.

Once the boat is actually underway big LWL and skinney are far more important to comfort than a dance hall interior.
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We happened to pass by the Dashew's heading in opposite directions at the entrance to Baltimore harbor a few years back. Look at that fender hanging over the side - what lubbers!
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An Endeavour Catamaran Trawlercat will meet and exceed those numbers but does it at a fraction of the weight and minimum wetted surface hulls. PDQ and Seawind also, and for the same reasons.
Now if only they had the design criteria of an FPB and:
  • were ocean rated
  • could survive a capsize
  • would not sink due to a container strike
  • had the tankage to travel 4000 nm non stop
  • looked like a Vietnamese naval vessel
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but I'd like to see a comparison of purchase price per square foot of liveable space.

Mere volume does little for a boat unless its constantly dockside as a cottage.

Once the boat is actually underway big LWL and skinney are far more important to comfort than a dance hall interior.
The problem is that people live in space. Generally less space = less long term comfort, assuming good design of the interior spaces.

I don't see battling the open seas in heavy conditions as the "joy" of cruising. I see cruising as a series of voyages to interesting places where you live off of the boat and explore.

For me, the compromise is and would be to maximize your creature comforts while being capable of getting through the really rough stuff.

I guess I'm saying that while having a boat that is comfortable in a hurricane might be nice, but you can choose not to go out in that kind of weather and live more comfortably.
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Baltimore Lurker wrote;

"We happened to pass by the Dashew's heading in opposite directions at the entrance to Baltimore harbor a few years back. Look at that fender hanging over the side - what lubbers!"

Indeed .. look like newbies. Definitely a slicer though.

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Yup ... Don't care for any Nordhavn except the 46 but that KK and many many others are beautiful indeed. You could almost say if a yacht's not pretty it may not even be a yacht. Think of how many Nordy's they'd probably sell if they were beautiful. For that matter the Dashew boats would probably sell at least three-fold if they'd just paint'em.
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But with time you have to paint it again and again.
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You'd get along fine in Alaska. I painted my 16' aluminum skiff including anti fouling on the bottom. I don't think anybody had ever done that in the past there either. But Alaskan's view boats like chain saws and pants. Ther'e useful in the company of others and when (not if) you want to cut wood ... or go fishing. VERY few boats exist in Alaska exist for any other reason .. fishing. And of course painting them is a waste of time. Most think fenders are a waste of time also.

The boats on this forum on the other hand are considered to be almost works of art held in the highest esteem by their owners and lusted after frequently because of their perceived beauty. You see and read of the great effort and honest work most of the TF members do to make their boat beautiful and then admire the other man's boat as well. Count the unfinished boats on this forum.
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