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Old 07-12-2016, 12:09 PM   #1
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Trawler dog pee and poop ?

Wife and I have a too well trained Porgie, want to take him with us for short trips where we would be at anchor. Our dog, Anchor, 4 years old, will not do any business on boat. Have 350/390 Mainship. Escorted him to platform but he would not go. Put a green "grass" color indoor/outdoor carpet down and added the sent of his poop. Escorted him around deck, No go. need help, ideas, Knowledge. Jay
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Old 07-12-2016, 12:25 PM   #2
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We never did get our dog to regularly go on board. I don't think carpet would work though -- dogs are told all the time not to go on carpet.

If we were to try again, I'd go with artificial turf:


Add a grommet or something to a corner, and tie a line to it to rinse it overboard.
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Old 07-12-2016, 12:53 PM   #3
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We have the luxury of going ashore, but there's nooks and crannies everywhere here.
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At four years old, it won't be easy.


Get some potty pads from your pet store. They don't have the carpet connotation. Then let him/her stew for at least a half day and take him outside on a leash and keep him on the potty pad. Helps if you already have the verbal "go potty' or something similar in place.


If you can ever get him to go on the potty pad at home, then try it on the boat.


Much, much better is to train them from puppyhood.


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Old 07-12-2016, 12:59 PM   #5
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Murry, we will be spending some time in Bahamas, there are times where good land is not avaliable. Thanks for the reply. Jay
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Thanks David. Jay
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Old 07-12-2016, 01:09 PM   #7
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We travel the Bahamas with our dog, an 85 lb, 6 YO lab. She won't go onboard, no matter what, but I haven't had an issue finding a spot for her. Dogs, unlike humans, can hold it a really long time when needed. Many suburban dogs go 10 hours or more when left at home alone while their owners are at work.

It's not ideal to make them wait that long, but it's better than leaving them at the vet.

There are a few anchorages in the Bahamas without some sort of beach/shoreline, but they can be avoided. We look for spots we can get her to shore when we pick an anchorage.

I like taking her ashore most nights, it's good alone time, just me, my dog and the mosquitoes.
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Artificial turf sounds good...I'd suggest giving it a good rub on a prominent telephone pole or fire hydrant that lots of dogs use. My guess is your dog would rather have it smell like himself rather than letting all those other dogs "claim" his territory.
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buy one of these and put it on your foredeck?
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Old 07-12-2016, 01:51 PM   #10
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We could never gets ours (Pirate) to pee or poop on the boat either.
But he was good in that he only needed shore 2 times a day so that never stopped us from cruising which is mostly anchoring (95%).
Since it was the first mate's dog, she got very good at being a dinghy taxi driver.
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Get some astro turf and have other dogs go on it first. Generally, dogs want to cover up other dogs smells. I took our lab outside on the astro turf at home before going onto the boat. It took about 5 minutes to get hime to go on the turf. We put a pee pad under the turf to absorb the pee.
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Our solution was easy, we left the dog at home and then gave the dog to one of the kids when we went cruising and living aboard full time. We loved that little guy but didn't want to be full time crew for him, living and cruising by his agenda rather than ours.
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Old 07-12-2016, 04:29 PM   #13
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Its very hard to train an older dog. Their instinct is to go outside. WE have known may boat dogs that could never learn to do it ont he deck. Our beagle was a weekend cruiser and always had shore access twice a day. When we moved aboard she was 7. Never could train her, try as we might. So she and I had some lovely walks on the beach to feed the mosquitos. When we lost her we tried going w/o a dog. That lasted about 6 weeks. We got a beagle puppy and she has lived aboard from day one. It only took a week to pad train the puppy. That isn't a solution for those with older dogs, I know. But it does give hope to those who want to get a dog and have it live aboard. We still take her ashore twice a day, but when you are anchored in the marshes of Georgia, some times there is just no option. It is nice that she has the option. She does use her pad every day. Often when we come in from a walk, she goes straight to her pad to pee in her own spot.
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What about if u have 2 cats?
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Or dog was about 3 when we moved aboard. A friend of mine and I, ahem, "seasoned" the pad, and then our dog was put on deck during the day. Eventually, nature called, and she used what seemed the most appropriate place. A little praise and she took to it like a duck to water
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I've been on or near the water all my life. For balky dogs I bought a piece of sod at the home store. You only need it initially.
One pup was having trouble at anchor, so we took her for a beach walk. Had a bear encounter and solved it for everybody.
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Thanks to all, looks like we all love boats and dogs bet there is some cat lovers too. This has been a great help hearing from you all. Jay
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Our solution was easy, we left the dog at home and then gave the dog to one of the kids when we went cruising and living aboard full time. We loved that little guy but didn't want to be full time crew for him, living and cruising by his agenda rather than ours.
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Old 07-13-2016, 04:21 PM   #19
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Every dog can be taught. Actually, it's the owners that need to be taught. We've done it with puppies and with older dogs. We just switched boats. One dog absolutely refused to go in the new area we designated on the new boat. So we backed up, realized the issue, and worked slowly, consistently, and with lots of praise for about a week. Now she happily runs to the new area on the new boat and does her businesses. We're now able to leave doors on the boat open again (you'll understand once you read the technique).

We wrote about the technique 8 years ago. Hundreds of dogs and people have gone through it with fabulous results. The time it doesn't work is when the people give up and stop working the technique.

When we adopted a 9 year old dog, she wouldn't consider going on the boat. It took running through the technique over a couple of weeks. Yes, weeks (that doesn't mean making them hold it - never do that but they can be uncomfortable for a day at a time). Finally, she did it. She died in our pilothouse at 15 loving every minute of the cruising she did over the 6 years (and pee'ing and poop'ing on the boat every day).

Even today at a dock, before the dogs go for a walk off the boat, they go to their spot on the boat to do their businesses. We'll often take them for a walk right after and they surely prefer to go off the boat but they'd rather be comfortable too. It's all about knowing where it's OK to go.

I can't imagine a situation where I'd have to lower a dinghy in bad weather to take a dog to shore. Or how about overnight passages? Or Superstorm Sandy where the dogs didn't get off the boat for 4 days?

Every dog can be taught to do it. You just can't give up. Again, it's not the dog's fault when the owners throw up their hands. It's the people's fault it doesn't work.

The technique:
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Every dog can be taught. Actually, it's the owners that need to be taught.
Exactly.
Any dog will eventually do their business on the boat.

Although, my friend's shepherd swims to shore when they are anchored. The dog even climbs the swim ladder when he returns. But he will go on the catamaran's trampoline during long cruises.
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