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Old 07-13-2016, 05:58 PM   #21
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I like dogs and cats, but can't put up with the p&p, and they're an especially difficult burden to travel with.
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Old 07-13-2016, 06:03 PM   #22
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...and they're an especially difficult burden to travel with.
I guess I just love the burden things like my dogs, wife, dinghy, bilge pumps, and other cruisers put into my life. It seems much more sad to me to avoid the small hassles to live a sterile life without complication.
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Old 07-13-2016, 06:07 PM   #23
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I guess I just love the burden things like my dogs, wife, dinghy, bilge pumps, and other cruisers put into my life. It seems much more sad to me to avoid the small hassles to live a sterile life without complication.
Still, I'm able to enjoy the company of other boaters' pets when the opportunities arise.
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Old 07-13-2016, 06:17 PM   #24
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Another feel good, maybe will work, didn't for me no matter whose system I tried, I love but don't need another dog...can't live without them thread.

For those having issues with pets aboard, there are great suggestions and techniques here that if you have a dog aboard you might try.

But for reasons some understand and some dont, there are people who elect to not have kids, let alone pets.

No one can try or walk in another's shoes for some decisions...it is only a personal decision that probably has been thought through greater than by someone that says "oh, but of course you can"...."or its better with"..."or its better without".....
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Old 07-13-2016, 06:33 PM   #25
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I guess we were lucky but our 3x5 artificial grass yard on the bow was an instant hit with our lab and dachshund. Both are yard trained at home (maybe not so much on the little one) so not sure why the easy transfer. Dogs will eventually have to go and it may take a day or two to get some good results. Be consistent with the yard placement - that seems like a must do.
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Old 07-13-2016, 06:54 PM   #26
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Greetings,
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Old 07-13-2016, 07:45 PM   #27
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Every dog can be taught. Actually, it's the owners that need to be taught. We've done it with puppies and with older dogs. We just switched boats. One dog absolutely refused to go in the new area we designated on the new boat. So we backed up, realized the issue, and worked slowly, consistently, and with lots of praise for about a week. Now she happily runs to the new area on the new boat and does her businesses. We're now able to leave doors on the boat open again (you'll understand once you read the technique).

We wrote about the technique 8 years ago. Hundreds of dogs and people have gone through it with fabulous results. The time it doesn't work is when the people give up and stop working the technique.

When we adopted a 9 year old dog, she wouldn't consider going on the boat. It took running through the technique over a couple of weeks. Yes, weeks (that doesn't mean making them hold it - never do that but they can be uncomfortable for a day at a time). Finally, she did it. She died in our pilothouse at 15 loving every minute of the cruising she did over the 6 years (and pee'ing and poop'ing on the boat every day).

Even today at a dock, before the dogs go for a walk off the boat, they go to their spot on the boat to do their businesses. We'll often take them for a walk right after and they surely prefer to go off the boat but they'd rather be comfortable too. It's all about knowing where it's OK to go.

I can't imagine a situation where I'd have to lower a dinghy in bad weather to take a dog to shore. Or how about overnight passages? Or Superstorm Sandy where the dogs didn't get off the boat for 4 days?

Every dog can be taught to do it. You just can't give up. Again, it's not the dog's fault when the owners throw up their hands. It's the people's fault it doesn't work.

The technique:
https://activecaptain.com/articles/dogs/canineCrew.php
Jeff, you have big, shedding dogs like our lab. My question isn't so much about dealing with the poop and pee, but dealing with the dog hair.

Our lab is mixed with a little something else (pit bull, we think) and has much shorter fur than most pure breds. Still though, on a cruise it is a constant battle. Hair gets everywhere, clogs scuppers, covers the decks, sticks to the overheads, heck it even gets on the outside of the hull. We love her and won't stop bringing her, but man....

I give the boat a constant wash down, salt water at anchor, fresh at the dock, at least twice a day. And we vacuum pretty much every day but it still builds up. Much worse than when we are at home.

Any tips?
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Old 07-13-2016, 08:52 PM   #28
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Live life and enjoy the things around you. My wife leaves a lot of crap around the boat too. It's really not a big deal seeing some dog hair. It's called FURniture for a reason.
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Old 07-13-2016, 09:43 PM   #29
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FWIW, our dear departed Norma Jean (Toy Poodle) became a live aboard at 13 years old. She learned to use a pee pad in about 2-days. She enjoyed cruising for 3 more years until she crossed the rainbow bridge.

We now have another Toy Poodle and a Chihuahua. Both are trained to do their business on board. I think they laugh when they see other dogs being brought ashore in a dinghy during miserable weather.
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Old 07-14-2016, 01:00 AM   #30
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We've had good results (using the scent) with the artificial grass unit that is suspended over a shallow reservoir. We place it by the port stern scupper for easy rinsing. Their food and water dishes are intentionally placed on the bow as far away from the pad as possible.

In our case the 10 year old Shepard mix took right to it the first time out while the 2 year old Terrier mix required a handful of outings before she decided to use the pad instead of the deck. Both are very reluctant to "loaf" on board and have only done a couple of times, as we normally put ashore at least once a day.
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