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Old 01-01-2017, 10:46 PM   #41
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I have always felt the best description of our type of boats, that is more inclusive and less misleading that most others, is to refer to them as 'coastal cruisers', adding 'trawler style' as an optional extra that might mean more to some than others.

Coastal cruiser immediately says powered by an engine, and capable of off-shore travel, so not your small in-shore cabin cruiser...
and the Trawler style might well bring to mind, to those in the know at least, of the hull shape being something like an oversized rowing dinghy, with spray-deflecting type bow, highish sides, and a flat stern - ie functional, as in fishing trawler, but the cruiser word signifies adapted or made to live aboard.
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Old 01-01-2017, 10:55 PM   #42
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According to urbandictionary.com the top definition for

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A person who is too stingy or poor to pay for drinks in nightclubs so they proceed to drink the dregs of any drinks that are left unattended. They usually end up totally wasted by the end of the night, puking their guts up in the loos, because of all the different drinks they've consumed.
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Old 01-01-2017, 10:59 PM   #43
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Pete, "coastal cruiser" is a much too kind/adventurous description of my boating. I'm a confirmed gunkholer.

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Old 01-01-2017, 11:54 PM   #44
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Pete, "coastal cruiser" is a much too kind/adventurous description of my boating. I'm a confirmed gunkholer.

Maybeso Mark, but the Coot is eminently capable of going coastal - your inclination not to, is a choice you are able to make, but was not mandated by the design of your vessel. My case still rests...

But you knew that - you just wanted me to say it, right..?
In fact, I'll go further than that. With suitable tankage, that vessel of yours is ocean capable. Well....small ocean anyway...so see how much you are underutilising your vessel. Does that make you lose sleep at nights..? No...thought not...
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Old 01-02-2017, 12:12 AM   #45
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Mark - You ever calculated fuel required to cruise your Coot to Hawaii?? Could you carry ample fuel? Would sure be an interesting journey! Maybe Pete could be first mate...
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Old 01-02-2017, 12:12 AM   #46
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Somewhere in the earlier chapters of Chapman's Piloting & Seamanship, is the "correct" description of a recreational "trawler".
And who appointed Chapman's as the gospel on the subject? While it may be an informed opinion on the definition, it is just one opinion. The definitions of terms change over the years too based on acceptable usage. We could find a long list of words than no longer mean what they once did. There was a time where linguists were considered the ones to listen to, but not many of then are simply considered pedantic.
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Old 01-02-2017, 10:07 AM   #47
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According to urbandictionary.com the top definition for

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A person who is too stingy or poor to pay for drinks in nightclubs so they proceed to drink the dregs of any drinks that are left unattended. They usually end up totally wasted by the end of the night, puking their guts up in the loos, because of all the different drinks they've consumed.


That can't be right... those are sailors. :-D
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Old 01-02-2017, 12:29 PM   #48
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Mark - You ever calculated fuel required to cruise your Coot to Hawaii?? Could you carry ample fuel? Would sure be an interesting journey! Maybe Pete could be first mate...
Have the range to get to Seattle but not Hawaii, with fuel capacity of 318 gallons.
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Old 01-02-2017, 12:35 PM   #49
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Have you considered inflatable bladders if you really want to make the trip? Plus it appears you have sails if needed.
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Old 01-02-2017, 12:36 PM   #50
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RT,
Appearently not "beaten to death" as here it is .....
A gardener would call it a "perennial" topic. Dies off every year then comes back to life
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Jay,
Indeed.
But it boils down to "Heavy Cruiser"
But if some still want to talk .....
Gotta talk about something ...
Or we cease to exist.
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Jay,
Indeed.
But it boils down to "Heavy Cruiser"
But if some still want to talk .....
Gotta talk about something ...
Or we cease to exist.
Face it - Eric is purely correct! Especially in the last two lines!! Thank you Eric.

I'm sure there are myriad of reasons why some on TF continue to post and read posts and then post again and again.

I know my reason: I spend much time at computer for work/fun related reasons. Work/fun things that I love to do... which is... inventing, conceiving and follow through. Thank God for computers... of course, also thank Bill Gates, Michael Dell, Steve and Steve of Apple, Arthur Watson (IBM) and many others!

Soooo... The reason I contribute to TF is because boats/marine-stuff is my best liked pass time. And, TF members in general are a great bunch of yahoos to chat with about something that was etched into my core from first year of life. TF site itself as well as email notices for threads to which I've joined give me opportunity to follow and/or contribute posts. This often gives me opportunity to turn my head off [at least for a few minutes] from the in-depth thought provoking items of which I may be spotlighting at the time.

This morning, starting at 4:30 AM, I've written full documents that are being sent to several important persons regarding two different business endeavors I own as well as a product collaboration to which I belong.

During these 7.5 hours of work/fun this morning I probably received fifteen +/- email alerts from TF and I've posted at least a few times on things that interest me. Now, as it's 1 minute to noon here, I plan to leave my desk for accomplishing out of office activities. I will surely check email later in day/eve and will likely be further amused my posts on TF... may even post a couple times myself.

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Not sure I agree with "Gotta talk about something ...
Or we cease to exist."

I think I would like to try not talking to the wife and see if I can
exist! LOL
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The local trawlers here have very limited living accomodations.

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Old 01-02-2017, 05:27 PM   #55
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Not sure I agree with "Gotta talk about something ...
Or we cease to exist."

I think I would like to try not talking to the wife and see if I can
exist! LOL
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Not you guys, only me. It's worth a try for me. LOL
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I think I would like to try not talking to the wife and see if I can
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Guessing she`s not a regular on TF.
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Old 01-02-2017, 06:21 PM   #58
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So why argue with an owner that insists on calling his boat a trawler when your definition precludes it being called that? Just smile at him and let him enjoy his toy and call it anything he wants. Some of us may have very strict definitions of a trawler, others may be more flexible. If you take your pet out for a walk every morning and call it a cat but I know it to be a dog, in the words of Hillary "what difference does it make"?
It does make a difference to me if a person actually thinks his dog is a cat it tells me he is thinking and maybe living in an alternate reality and my dealings with that person would have to be modified to take that in to account with all possible contacts. I don't think the trawler thing is that extreme but it certainly is a sloppy use of language to describe what could otherwise be done with much greater meaning and accuracy. Considering our recent national election getting in a snit over the misnomer trawler is inconsequential when half the country is probably living in an alternate reality.
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And particularly if you are one of the ones in that alternate reality.

Where I come from, the experienced boaters, marinas, bridges, commercial vessels, military, USCG all seem to have an idea what a pleasure trawler is...it's the people here on TF THAT don't that kinda scares me
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And particularly if you are one of the ones in that alternate reality.

Where I come from, the experienced boaters, marinas, bridges, commercial vessels, military, USCG all seem to have an idea what a pleasure trawler is...it's the people here on TF THAT don't that kinda scares me


Nah, it just proves how pedantic we as a group really are. If we where not this particular thread would have died at post 4
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