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Old 08-13-2015, 06:44 PM   #41
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Our Camano averaged 2.5 GPH at 8 knots and a top speed of about 17 knots. That's with the older TAMD Volvo, not the newer common rail engine. It's a lot of boat in only a 28 ft hull.
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Old 08-13-2015, 08:57 PM   #42
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Efficiency wise the Nordic Tug is a good bet as her beam is not excessive like most all other trawlers and they have some rocker. At least I've noticed it on the 32.
When I bought my boat, this came with it so would this be a fit for the OP?
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Old 08-13-2015, 10:46 PM   #43
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I'm assuming (we know what happens later) that a v-berth with an insert would be harder to maneuver in/out of at night for that late night trips to the head and that something in the salon would be easier to walk around. Sounds like that's not the case.

I'd prefer some sort of insert for the vberth just for comfort sake, but I'm basing this off of sleeping in a friends v-berth many years....
Baker is right,there are V-berths, and there are forward cabin berths, accessible on 3 sides to a varying degree boat to boat. They can be near to queen size, with no insert required.Even our 1981 boat has side access with a step up either side, admittedly ours is a single sleeping cabin version so the fwd cabin is more generous.
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Our Mainship 400 checks most of your boxes but no aft cabin. At 7 knots I'm at 1900 RPM's and 6 gph. Yanmar 370 can hit 12-14
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Our Mainship 400 checks most of your boxes but no aft cabin. At 7 knots I'm at 1900 RPM's and 6 gph. Yanmar 370 can hit 12-14
Is that a single engined boat...?
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Yes. Yammer 370, 1850 hours
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Thanks, that puts the bigger mainships on the list then.
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I suspect this is your own special sense of humor but for those here on TF that aren't familar w the expression .....

A boat's bottom (epically aft) in the horizontal plane is straight as w a planing hull, hooked as in concave or "with rocker". Such a bottom has rocker and is slightly convex. Planing hulls w a small amount of rocker will plane but only at quite low planing speeds generally what one would refer to as semi-displacement speeds. Say 12 to 14 knots for a 36' boat. Such a boat is more efficient at those speeds. Many trawlers lack such a hull shape but the door is open for them to go faster w more power. W considerable rocker a hull, designer, builder do not have that option so straight bottoms w/o rocker are often found on boats that would benifit from the rocker.

One could say that Lynn Seynor didn't give the Nordic Tug that option (has some rocker) and the NT performs better at 10 or 12 knots and I don't think they go much faster. Don't recall any going 20.

Or perhaps Walt you were just josh'in me about my advanced age .. like yours.
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Or perhaps Walt you were just josh'in me about my advanced age .. like yours.
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Baker is right,there are V-berths, and there are forward cabin berths, accessible on 3 sides to a varying degree boat to boat. They can be near to queen size, with no insert required.Even our 1981 boat has side access with a step up either side, admittedly ours is a single sleeping cabin version so the fwd cabin is more generous.

I wasn't sure that my length restraints would allow for a forward cabin berth. I assumed that it would require quite a beam for that style of berth.
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I'd need one with a seat-belt. My wife thinks I'm off my rocker pretty often.
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Our Camano averaged 2.5 GPH at 8 knots and a top speed of about 17 knots. That's with the older TAMD Volvo, not the newer common rail engine. It's a lot of boat in only a 28 ft hull.
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That looks about right.
The Camano's are quite efficient and I don't think they have any rocker. Surprising .. but I think they were probably optimized for about 18 knots. They have a small box keel that provides some support that dosn't terminate in a flat transom. I've read of a 41' Camano that got really good burn rates too. Perhaps they are light. That would do it.

Thanks for the report.
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Two boats to seriously consider are the Bayliner 32' models which have everything you asked for and the 34' models which do not have the aft cabin.

I've owned five ocean going Bayliners and would stack them up feature for feature, quality for quality with any of the comparable brands of production boats of the same type, IE carver, mainship, albin, tollycraft, uniflite, etc...

It used to be that Bayliners got a bad rap, but 30 years of history has proven that they have no no issues than any oother boat of a given era, and often less issues because the long production runs gave the manufacturer time to work out any bugs that came up in the field.
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That looks about right.
The Camano's are quite efficient and I don't think they have any rocker. Surprising .. but I think they were probably optimized for about 18 knots. They have a small box keel that provides some support that dosn't terminate in a flat transom. I've read of a 41' Camano that got really good burn rates too. Perhaps they are light. That would do it.

Thanks for the report.
The 41 Camano is now made by Bracewell Marine Group in Canada. Their specs say it weighs 28,000 lbs. It's a very nice boat. I guess that is light compared to my Mainship at 40,000 lbs.
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Yes and that lightness will have a profound effect on performance re speed and power needed to drive. A light plywood OB boat like the Bryant 21' OB cruiser of the 50s did fine w planing performance having two 35hp Johnson engines. Those two engines would'nt push a contempoary plastic boat .... too heavy.

Those that require speed should shun trawlers and embrace cruisers.
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I have a 1980 repowered Mainship 34 Mk 1 for sale in Deltaville VA that meets many of your criteria. You can see it on yachtworld or contact me for info.
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I've owned five ocean going Bayliners and would stack them up feature for feature, quality for quality with any of the comparable brands of production boats .........
I agree! I've never owned one but here is something I've learned over the years. Those who bad mouth the Bayliner 4588 & 4788 have never cruised on one! I used to be of that ilk. As I've stated countless times before...You doubters should take a ride on one.....you'll come away a changed person!
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Tollycraft 34' tri cabin meets much of OP's desires.. but not all.

They are twins, not singles, and usually gasoline. 34' Tolly with 350 cid engines can be run on one screw at slow speed for about 3 nmpg, but not 4. The rest of desires seem met. Can also run at 16/17 knot plane at 1 nmpg. WOT = 21/22 knots and much fuel burn.

1970 and 1980 models are affordable, low maintenance, and well built.
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I agree! I've never owned one but here is something I've learned over the years. Those who bad mouth the Bayliner 4588 & 4788 have never cruised on one! I used to be of that ilk. As I've stated countless times before...You doubters should take a ride on one.....you'll come away a changed person!
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