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Old 09-24-2019, 11:49 AM   #61
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Then you'd be the same in an Elling. I'd put the seaworthiness of a 63' Riva up against that of a 49' Elling. And, no, the Riva isn't self righting. Personally, I'm not going to attempt a crossing in anything under 100'.


??? The E6 is 65 feet
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??? The E6 is 65 feet
Yeah but BB is talking about the E4
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Yeah but BB is talking about the E4
This discussion started on the E4. Yes, I'd consider the E6 ahead of the E4. Then whatever became of the E5?
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This discussion started on the E4. Yes, I'd consider the E6 ahead of the E4. Then whatever became of the E5?
Iíve never seen one which makes me think there arenít any but I could be wrong
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Iíve never seen one which makes me think there arenít any but I could be wrong
Have any E-6's been sold and delivered?
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Have any E-6's been sold and delivered?
I donít think so but again I could be wrong
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Thanks. So we know one has been built, we don't know about sold and delivered. Nice looking boat Beyond that, it has it's pluses and minuses like every boat. Who would like to be the first to buy one and cross the Atlantic in it?
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Thanks. So we know one has been built, we don't know about sold and delivered. Nice looking boat Beyond that, it has it's pluses and minuses like every boat. Who would like to be the first to buy one and cross the Atlantic in it?
I wouldnít be afraid to try it.
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I wouldnít be afraid to try it.
Would you select it over a similarly sized Nordhavn or KK or Selene or others with more proven records?
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Would you select it over a similarly sized Nordhavn or KK or Selene or others with more proven records?
Possibly because once I got across I would have to option of cruising the Med at speeds greater than 8 knots.
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Possibly because once I got across I would have to option of cruising the Med at speeds greater than 8 knots.
I agree with that but would like to see the boat proven a bit more first. Then I'd at least have to spend some time on it in 10-12' seas just to get an idea on how it might be in far rougher seas.

We're leaving for Bermuda tomorrow. Maybe they'll rush one to us and we can take it on the trip. Problem is no rough seas forecast though.
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I agree with that but would like to see the boat proven a bit more first. Then I'd at least have to spend some time on it in 10-12' seas just to get an idea on how it might be in far rougher seas.

We're leaving for Bermuda tomorrow. Maybe they'll rush one to us and we can take it on the trip. Problem is no rough seas forecast though.
I agree with wanting to get out on it in some significant seas before pulling the trigger.

How are you getting to Bermuda? Plane?
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I agree with wanting to get out on it in some significant seas before pulling the trigger.

How are you getting to Bermuda? Plane?
Boat. Leave tomorrow morning, arrive on Saturday at a time to be determined. Seas are 3' at 7 and 8 seconds. Possibly a little 4' at the same so nothing but a gentle swell. Wind waves are only 1' and the swell is 2' and 3'. Should be an easy run. We do have family and friends flying in. To get non stop they have to fly out of Miami.
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What are you taking out there?
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What are you taking out there?
Wifey B: Atlantic Ocean.

Large semi-displacement.
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@Wifey B: lol

Why so mysterious? Do you I have to guess? I know it’s not the RIVA
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At age 16 Laura Dekker sailed around the world, solo in not that large a boat.

Watch this video if you can in its entirety, it is entertaining and most will admire her. She had to win 8 court cases, the courts wanted to block some one so young from her sail around the world dream.



The next link is to the story of the restoration of the 23 foot sailboat solo skippered by Felicity Ann, the first woman to sail across the Atlantic. The boat never returned to England after the solo journey and was restored somewhere in Puget Sound.

Last year I went to the Victoria Classic Boat Show (BC) and this small boat was on display, her small boat made a huge impression. As others have pointed out, you can cross oceans with just about anything as long as the conditions are benign. One of the problems to surmount in the Victoria (BC) to Maui Race is the doldrums which can settle in, often for days.

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Richard , Iím assuming your reference to ďpaying the bills ď was about the fuel cost consumption? How do you personally define a boat for coastal use as compared to ocean capable...Thanks...
Oops, just saw this.

I generally put boats in three categories:

1. ICW / Inland boats. they can cross a sound safely, but would not do it for any length of time.

2. Coastal cruising. Great for going up and down the coasts. Able to stay out for a couple of days if need be. Able to withstand whatever the ocean can throw at them (summer, NOT winter) for some time until a safe port is reached. Never out of the range of BoatUS or SeaTow! Most SD or SP hull boats are in this category.

3. Ocean Passage Makers. True self sufficiency All the above of 2, with the critical addition of enough fuel to give it a 3,000+ nm range AND enough room in the engine room to be able to work on every system in the boat AND have the spare parts and supplies needed for a month or two month trip away from anything.

Thus, I classify the EllingE6 as number 2 above.

I probably have $10,000 of spare parts, expendables, etc aboard. It takes up much of the engine room space.

In the last 6 years and 25k miles, I've only needed a couple of the thousands of parts, fittings, etc. that I have aboard. But the problem is, one never knows what may be needed in the middle of the Atlantic.

Lastly, for my sense of well being, it's more important to me how a boat behaves in big storms, 20+ seas in mixed seas than it's ability to roll over.

My KK goes with the seas, she doesn't fight them. We've never had green water over the cap rail. That's what allows me to sleep at night or even on watch
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