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Old 08-11-2015, 04:48 PM   #141
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Our Tolly has twins with good condition starters. If I was to carry one new spare it probably would be for the wrong side engine; when a starter failure (might) happen. Starters last a looong time if kept dry and not used to point of extreme heat when an engine may refuse to start. Also, you can usually hear or notice other abnormalities (hot smell being one) before they fully give up the ghost. To carry two would be almost silly. Of course exception may be made to that statement... if doing much off shore cruising or an ocean crossing. But in those cases... how often do we shut engines down while not in port??
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Old 08-11-2015, 05:14 PM   #142
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The name of this boat is Gambler. I guess anyone can make a slight miscalculation.

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Old 08-11-2015, 05:33 PM   #143
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The name of this boat is Gambler. I guess anyone can make a slight miscalculation.

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Old 08-11-2015, 11:49 PM   #144
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Starters last a looong time if kept dry and not used to point of extreme heat when an engine may refuse to start. Also, you can usually hear or notice other abnormalities (hot smell being one) before they fully give up the ghost. To carry two would be almost silly.
I would consider a spare solenoid - I could see that failing without warning.
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Old 08-12-2015, 12:31 AM   #145
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speaking of changing starters ( I might of told this on already so if it sounds familiar I apologize)
A few years back I was the second skipper on a boat that was watching the Christmas Ship Parade on Lake Union. As the festivities ended one of the 8v92t/a Detroit's decided to pack in its starter.. with one side running..and me headed to the locks the captain/owner drops into the E.R. and removes the starter from the running engine and removes the dead starter and re installs the good one on the dead engine. 15 minutes max to do all that and drag the 150lb+ starter to the other side of the E.R. and install. Nobody on board knew a thing and the 2 hour ride home was way better at 18kts than 10kts.

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Old 08-12-2015, 01:02 AM   #146
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I would consider a spare solenoid - I could see that failing without warning.
I do have spare solenoid; forgot about that, until you mentioned it.
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Old 08-12-2015, 06:21 AM   #147
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Stating solenoid not that big a deal unless you are talking the integral one on the starter itself...nice to have but only necessary to have onboard if doing a lot of starting stopping in a short time.


Everyone who cruises should know how to bypass that solenoid and start with a small jumper or portable start switch.
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Old 08-12-2015, 07:00 AM   #148
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speaking of changing starters ( I might of told this on already so if it sounds familiar I apologize)
A few years back I was the second skipper on a boat that was watching the Christmas Ship Parade on Lake Union. As the festivities ended one of the 8v92t/a Detroit's decided to pack in its starter.. with one side running..and me headed to the locks the captain/owner drops into the E.R. and removes the starter from the running engine and removes the dead starter and re installs the good one on the dead engine. 15 minutes max to do all that and drag the 150lb+ starter to the other side of the E.R. and install. Nobody on board knew a thing and the 2 hour ride home was way better at 18kts than 10kts.

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Thanks, I had completely forgotten the joy of man handling a leak-troit starter in my old steel hull boat with the 4' engine room ceiling and 30 degree sloping floor.

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Old 08-12-2015, 09:45 AM   #149
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I don't carry a spare starter. But I do carry a spare raw water Air Conditioing pump. One of my engines may not start....but damn I am gonna be comfortably cool!!!!

Nothing would ruin a nice weekend like not having AC!!!!
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Old 08-12-2015, 09:57 AM   #150
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I don't carry a spare starter. But I do carry a spare raw water Air Conditioing pump. One of my engines may not start....but damn I am gonna be comfortably cool!!!!

Nothing would ruin a nice weekend like not having AC!!!!
No wonder Baker - You usually have HOT gals hanging around!
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No wonder Baker - You usually have HOT gals hanging around!
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Old 08-12-2015, 12:15 PM   #154
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I don't carry a spare, but have replaced my starter. It isn't a particularly difficult or time consuming job.
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Old 08-12-2015, 12:31 PM   #155
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I would put a spare ECM on board before a spare starter. The solenoid is a good idea though, and as mentioned above, in a pinch, you can always move the starter from the running engine.
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Old 08-12-2015, 12:42 PM   #156
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Starters should go out from use a whole lot more often in cars/trucks than in boats... due to the umpteen many more times of morning starts with several restarts day after day. Sooo... thinking along those lines... how often do you need a new starter in your car or truck; nor very often I'm sure.

One thing boat starters may experience (depending on how dry the bilge is kept – I keep ours bone dry) that afflicts their longevity is when they get consistently saturated with condensation/moisture; especially salt water moisture.

I can only recall changing one boat motor starter… that was on a 1975 50 hp Johnson O/B. I’ve owned several boats with I/B engines… one had its entire single motor replaced. One had both twin 350’s rebuilt. One had twin 350’s replaced with crate engines. All had starters that were still working just fine.

I’m surely not saying complete starter failure doesn’t happen on boats; just saying it’s rare and not happened to me… yet!

May the Marine Lord of Waterborne JuJu not place a starter curse on me for posting my own good experience with “Boat Starters”!

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