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Old 08-07-2019, 06:45 PM   #1
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Tough Furuno Radars

These are radars we use everyday. The one with 35,000 hours in standby is around 10 years old. It had a new magnatron installed a few months ago,hence the 400 hrs transmitting. The mag failed at around 27,000 hrs or so.
The other radar was installed about a year later. 27,000 hrs in stand by so far.
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Old 08-07-2019, 06:46 PM   #2
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Ooops, sorry for the port list...
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Old 08-07-2019, 11:50 PM   #3
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Kind of a side question. But is there a difference in the reliability of open-array vs enclosed array radars? I would expect the open-array antennas to be more prone to failure. But I have no idea.
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Kind of a side question. But is there a difference in the reliability of open-array vs enclosed array radars? I would expect the open-array antennas to be more prone to failure. But I have no idea.
I don't think so but I remember people swore the open array antennas would freeze up in icing conditions. closed dome units didn't.
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I have 2 Furuno Navnets on my charter boat, one open array and one closed. Did replace the mag in the open array, but other than that neither had any issues in almost 20 years. So I would have to think when comparing apples to apples, the reliability is the same. Performance will be better with a larger diameter array.

Most importantly, you look cooler with a large open array going around.

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I have a 25 yr. old Furuno 1800 that is still going strong. One Magnetron replaced some years ago...

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I don't think so but I remember people swore the open array antennas would freeze up in icing conditions. closed dome units didn't.
Thatís true, In my past life I worked on Bering Sea fishing trawlers and have been in winter ice storms when everything on the boat freezes solid. I donít remember being worried about the radar arrays. We were out with baseball bats trying to keep the ice off the superstructure and out of the scuppers to keep the weight off.

But then no one in their right mind should be out on a pleasure boat in those conditions.
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We have a 30 year old Furuno 1830 with a dome and a 20 year old Furno FCR1100 open array.

The motor on the 1800 was replaced 15 years ago and a diode in the 1100 about 9 years ago.

The 1800 has more hours on it but we alternate radars every day while cruising.

Other than the above issues, no other problems.

We in the PNW are fortunate that Furuno Service Center is located in Camas, WA. They are very good at repairing older equipment like ours. They treat customers with 30 year old equipment the same as current equipment owners.
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Wifey B: Don't know about freezing up in icing conditions.

I'm a Furuno girl all the way. 6 Furuno radars and never a single problem. Oldest is just under 7 years but they have a lot of hours of usage. We have Furuno radars even on boats that Furuno isn't our primary plotting electronics.
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Hmmm... Ours is a 17-year-old #1942 Mk II with an open array antenna... didn't realize there's maybe an hour meter in there somewhere... hadn't stumbled across that in the manual...

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Hmmm... Ours is a 17-year-old #1942 Mk II with an open array antenna... didn't realize there's maybe an hour meter in there somewhere... hadn't stumbled across that in the manual...

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Hour metyer shows up when radar is in standby mode. I'm not sure all Furuno radars have this. No user intervention necessary.
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Furuno is the best with the best service. Especially when they have the ability to fix 20-30 year old units thatís why 99% of the commercial fleet uses them. Garmin or Raymarine, if they malfunction after 3 years they will not support the units but they will sell you another one. As they say buyer beware.
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Hour metyer shows up when radar is in standby mode. I'm not sure all Furuno radars have this. No user intervention necessary.
My recent 1815 shows the ON and the SCANNING hours when in Standby or warm up after the initial startup. Once set to scan it disappears.
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How can a recreational vessel's radar amass all these hours when engines run only a few hundred hours per year? I'd guess our marine radar failures are due to the marine age and/or shoddy design factors.

My Raymarine radar went kaput after 7 years and 900 engine hours. Replaced, naturally, with Furuno.
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How can a recreational vessel's radar amass all these hours when engines run only a few hundred hours per year? I'd guess our marine radar failures are due to the marine age and/or shoddy design factors.
One of the radars is always on when we are underway.
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One of the radars is always on when we are underway.
How many engine hours?
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How many engine hours?
Lehman has 6,300 hours on it. First owner put 3,000 hours on it and the rest is ours.
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Dang, you've got me beat. I've been using these same radars for my entire career on many different vessels, and have been very happy with them. One of my most trusted pieces of equipment. I've never used anything but Furuno, so I really can't compare. I've never had one freeze up before. I've had anemometers freeze, but never the radar.
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Found it. Not on the Stand-By screen, in our base. Instead, it shows up in the Self-Test.

2862.8 total, 1680.9 transmit. Total tracks pretty well with our engine ours, ~2535 just now.

The manual says life expectancy of our Magnetron is 2000-3000 hours, including stand-by time. Not to worry; if it craps out we'll just get a newer one, color, overlay onto plotter possible, etc.

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