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02-15-2016, 08:51 AM
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Guru
City: SF Bay Area
Vessel Model: Tollycraft 34' Tri Cabin
Join Date: Feb 2011
Posts: 12,569
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Top Five Needed Boat Features
What are your Top Five Needed Boat Features?
OK to list more or less long as they are really Needed.
"Sub Category" perfectly OK too!
Our Top Five:
1. Flying Bridge - Me
2. Up Galley with Full Accommodations and Large Windows - Linda
3. Accessible, Room-To-Work-Inside, Stand-Up Engine Compartment - Me
4. Master Stateroom with Head/Shower, Closet, Queen Size Bed, Storage - Us
5. Roomy Comfortable Locations to Relax - Both Inside and Outside - Us
Sub Category [not 100% needed/necessary]:
A. Twin engines - Me
B. Easy To Keep Exterior and Interior Clean - Us
C. No Outside Bright Work; Varnished or Otherwise - Us
D. Upper and Lower Helm Station with Full Controls - Me
E. Gen Set - Us
F. Planing Hull - Us
G. Full Safety Railing All Around All Exterior Areas - Us
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02-15-2016, 09:26 AM
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Senior Member
City: Bocas del Toro, Panama
Vessel Name: Delta Swizzler
Vessel Model: 1988 58' Vantare
Join Date: Feb 2010
Posts: 245
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Nice list agree with all the wood on the inside, one more we added was access to the fly ridge from the salon or pilot house. Last thing I wanted was someone walking to the black of the fly bridge in back weather, then down a ladder where they can't be seen or heard.
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02-15-2016, 09:36 AM
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Guru
Join Date: Apr 2009
Posts: 1,920
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Some important items depend on where you boat. In FL no need for a lower steering station - takes up room and would seldom be used. If however you have the room then why not.
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Tampa Bay
Carver 355 ACMY Twin Cummins Diesels Sold
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02-15-2016, 09:53 AM
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Guru
City: Port Townsend
Vessel Name: The Promise
Vessel Model: Roughwater 35
Join Date: Sep 2012
Posts: 1,569
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Seakindly
Spacious pilot house w/360' visibility
Room to work on engine
Saloon down
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02-15-2016, 09:54 AM
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Senior Member
City: Oriental, NC
Vessel Name: M/V Major Award
Vessel Model: Senator 35 w/single Lehman
Join Date: Oct 2007
Posts: 423
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Our top 5 not in order:
1) No exterior teak and safety rails all around
2) Single engine w/skeg for low maintenance (Single Lehman)
3) Queen and shower in master with escape hatch on stern
4) Access steps (not ladder)to fly bridge for our dog and my old legs
5) Good HVAC
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02-15-2016, 09:59 AM
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Guru
City: Sidney
Join Date: Feb 2015
Posts: 2,258
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Quote:
Originally Posted by Art
What are your Top Five Needed Boat Features?
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HEAT!!!
No heat, no sale.
I like your list and aside from the bridge and engine room space, the rest, depending on boat size would move around in the top 10.
These would be on my "needed" list after HEAT.
Side boarding gates
Easy bridge access
Motorized tender
Windless controls on the bridge
Sub category:
Lots of outside stowage
Somewhat raised bulwarks all the way forward
Windshield washers
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02-15-2016, 10:01 AM
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Guru
City: Melbourne, FL
Join Date: Dec 2014
Posts: 1,731
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Quote:
Originally Posted by timjet
In FL no need for a lower steering station - takes up room and would seldom be used. If however you have the room then why not.
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Unless you fully enclose the flybridge, I would say that having a lower helm station was a good thing for several reasons:
1: you may go somewhere besides FL
2: you may sell it to someone who lives where it gets cold.
3: you may need to go somewhere in cooler / wet weather and it's absolutely horrid on a flybridge in the rain at 10 kts or faster.
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02-15-2016, 10:23 AM
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Guru
City: gulf coast
Join Date: Jun 2014
Posts: 3,440
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To your list I added:
Wide, safe feeling side deck for foredeck access
NO STAIRS
Diesels
Planing ability for those times when speed is an advantage
Inline engine design rather than V8 for easier access and simplicity
No inside helm unless over 50'
Full size queen bed with no low overhead or climb over necessary for late night head calls.
Aft or amidships master to avoid wave noise at anchor.
Second emergency exit from master cabin
IMO you are doing the correct analysis because once you have the list the brand or what the maker calls the style doesn't matter. You cam compare boats of different brands as equal because for your needs they are.
Our goal was to never get on a different boat after we bought ours and say we wish we had seen this one first. In 15 years we never did.
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02-15-2016, 10:26 AM
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Guru
City: Annapolis
Vessel Name: Ranger
Vessel Model: 58' Sedan Bridge
Join Date: Aug 2013
Posts: 7,088
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Not in order:
- No exterior wood
- Good head
- Good, separate, shower
- Good, island master berth
- Good sidedecks
- Flying bridge
- Stairs to the flying bridge (no ladders)
- Swim platform
- Transom door- some way to carry a decent dinghy
All that, with a decent boat attached. (The latter two are partly for the big dogs, too.)
-Chris
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Chesapeake Bay, USA
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02-15-2016, 10:34 AM
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Senior Member
City: Markham
Vessel Name: currently boatless
Join Date: Apr 2015
Posts: 280
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Top five...
1. Engine access - lots of room, strong preference for twins, and a SEA CHEST (why don't more builders use these?)
2. Safe exterior for working - wide walk around and high rails
3. Seakindly - prefer wide FD or SD hull, high freeboard
4. Galley up, after cabin master with walk around queen
5. Spacious flying bridge with stairs (not ladder)
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02-15-2016, 10:35 AM
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Guru
City: Miami
Join Date: Jul 2013
Posts: 800
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Top five list for me:
1 seaworthiness.
2 redundancy/ reliability fault tolerant systems.
3 singlehand friendly. If I'm incapacitated my wife needs to be able to get us both back home safely.
4 low maintenance, no teak, steel or aluminum hulls or trim. Prefer to spend time using the boat as opposed to a perpetual project.
5 comfort. For my wife that meant a bath tub and all that goes with that.
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02-15-2016, 10:35 AM
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Guru
City: Concrete Washington State
Vessel Name: Willy
Vessel Model: Willard Nomad 30'
Join Date: Oct 2007
Posts: 18,743
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I've thought that about women.
Gotta be this and gotta be that.
But when you fall in love w a woman that does poorly on your list you feel a little dumb.
I wouldn't say must this or that. Re the woman I (just possibly) could go w one not a Christian if she looked like Taylor Swift.
You may seem to think you need 10 knots but then go crazy for a Willard and after 10 years wonder what you were think'in back then.
I had an UL aircraft that climed at 1400FPM (fast and steep) and got a big lust for another that climbed at 350fpm. It just changed my flying style. I loved them both.
I say have a list as a searching tool but be prepared to wander .. maybe a lot.
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Eric
North Western Washington State USA
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02-15-2016, 10:52 AM
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Veteran Member
City: Bremerton WA
Vessel Name: Athena
Vessel Model: 41 Roughwater
Join Date: Dec 2015
Posts: 71
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Here in the PNW not much need for a fly bridge so
1 raised pilot house
2 single diesel
3 large salon
4 transom door
5 salty lines
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02-15-2016, 11:01 AM
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Guru
Join Date: Jun 2008
Posts: 5,037
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Single diesel
Walk around decks
Enclosed Flybridge
Walk around master bed
Galley down/open salon
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Jay Leonard
Ex boats: 1983 40 Albin trunk cabin, 1978 Mainship 34 Model 1
New Port Richey, Fl
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02-15-2016, 11:03 AM
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Guru
City: Sidney
Join Date: Feb 2015
Posts: 2,258
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Quote:
Originally Posted by Russ Borman
Here in the PNW not much need for a fly bridge
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I would have to look long and hard at a west coast boat without a bridge. To each etc...
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02-15-2016, 11:41 AM
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Guru
City: Tri Cities, WA
Join Date: Nov 2012
Posts: 4,406
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Quote:
Originally Posted by Russ Borman
Here in the PNW not much need for a fly bridge
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I disagree with this. Where we live it's a desert, gets real hot, plus we boat all year. Outside (fly bridge) helm is a must for me.
The other five:
1) easy access around the engines for maintenance
2) no exterior wood and interior wood at a minimum
3) three staterooms and two heads, both with standup showers
4) salon, galley and lower helm all on one level
5) easy cruise speed plus ability to get on plane if I want to
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1981 Boston Whaler 13'
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02-15-2016, 11:47 AM
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Guru
City: Seattle
Join Date: Jun 2012
Posts: 3,312
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It would be great if you started a poll so we could gather statistics.
TOP 5 ATTRIBUTES:
1. Comfortable motion inherent in the form of the hull (without stabilizers)
2. Stabilization at anchor
3. Seaworthiness
4. Standup engineroom
5. Functional pilothouse - no flybridge needed
6. Comfortable interior - not a shoebox
7. Super-efficient household appliances (oops, that's 7 items)
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02-15-2016, 11:50 AM
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Guru
City: Fort Lauderdale. Florida, USA
Join Date: Jan 2014
Posts: 21,449
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Our requirements for a boat to do the Loop and cruise inland rivers, in no particular order.
These are items that must come from factory
-Seaworthiness including offshore up to 200 nm.
-Flybridge
-Helms, lower and upper
-Draft no more than 5'6", preferably no more than 5'
-Air draft no more than 19'1"
-Sleeping accommodations for 8
-Washer and Dryer
-Refrigeration and Freezing adequate for 8 people for one month.
-Cruising speed at least 20 knots
-Range at economic setting of at least 450 nm
-Capability of carrying 11', 700 lb RIB
-Watermaker
-Generator, (2 Preferred)
-Inverter
-Autopilot
-Thrusters bow and stern
-Galley up
-A/C and Heat
-Dishwasher
-Stabilizers
-Appearance and aesthetics we could be happy with (includes Teak and other wood)
-Safe stairs to and from all levels
-Adequate working space in engine room
-Adequate walk around on both sides
-Rails to a safe height
-Twin CAT, MAN, or MTU engines with conventional drives. No pods.
-Comfortable and adequate space
-Door from lower helm to side deck
Items that could be added post purchase although factory preferable
-All electronics including satellite, FLIR, and Sonar, upper and lower, with second system for backup
-Joystick with remote controls
-Fresh water anchor and deck wash
-Wifi
-Stern Capstan's
-Televisions throughout
-Camera system for security and docking
-Adequate anchor with 300' all chain and windlass
-Twin helm seats upper and lower
-Added security features including non-lethal deterrence
-Spare parts and accessories and consumables
-Electric grills on decks
-Easy means on and off regardless of type docking
-Adequate and convenient shorepower regardless of type docking
-Alarm and monitoring system
-Ability to enclose aft deck and flybridge, hardtop for bridge
-Mattresses of our choice
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02-15-2016, 11:55 AM
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Guru
City: Fort Lauderdale. Florida, USA
Join Date: Jan 2014
Posts: 21,449
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Quote:
Originally Posted by Art
What are your Top Five Needed Boat Features?
OK to list more or less long as they are really Needed.
"Sub Category" perfectly OK too!
Our Top Five:
1. Flying Bridge - Me
2. Up Galley with Full Accommodations and Large Windows - Linda
3. Accessible, Room-To-Work-Inside, Stand-Up Engine Compartment - Me
4. Master Stateroom with Head/Shower, Closet, Queen Size Bed, Storage - Us
5. Roomy Comfortable Locations to Relax - Both Inside and Outside - Us
Sub Category [not 100% needed/necessary]:
A. Twin engines - Me
B. Easy To Keep Exterior and Interior Clean - Us
C. No Outside Bright Work; Varnished or Otherwise - Us
D. Upper and Lower Helm Station with Full Controls - Me
E. Gen Set - Us
F. Planing Hull - Us
G. Full Safety Railing All Around All Exterior Areas - Us
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We would absolutely agree with 10.5 out of your 12. Only place we differ is we do like teak.
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02-15-2016, 11:59 AM
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Guru
City: Fort Lauderdale. Florida, USA
Join Date: Jan 2014
Posts: 21,449
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Wifey B: Teak getting a bad rap from you dudes....
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