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Old 02-15-2016, 01:02 PM   #21
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Wifey B: Teak getting a bad rap from you dudes....
Probably because most of us are old enough to be your grandparents and you pay someone to care for it.
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Old 02-15-2016, 01:25 PM   #22
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Wifey B: Teak getting a bad rap from you dudes....
They've forgotten what it is. It's just a bad word now.

Also I believe we're using the word "teak" in place of wood.
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Old 02-15-2016, 02:12 PM   #23
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Old 02-15-2016, 02:14 PM   #24
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Wifey B: Teak getting a bad rap from you dudes....
In my case, I love the look of teak and varnished mahogany on outside and inside; bet most other boat owners do too. Dislike the self-work it takes to keep it beautiful; bet most other boat owners do too.

Not all boaters have out-sourced boat-maintainers/keepers. Depending on the condition of wood and its finishes desired as well as depending on how pretty the boat owner wants the wood to "always" look... means a lot regarding how much time/effort is required. I was brought up working on wooden boats and know just how to keep em really pretty... but... when young I was getting paid to do that! At my age I feel no need to have that glamor/bling on my boat - especially if it is me who needs to keep it looking that way!
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Old 02-15-2016, 02:21 PM   #25
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There are some really great posts-inputs regarding owners' needs/requirements of a boat in order to want to purchase it.

The reasons here should be a good check list for newbies coming to TF and looking to learn what is important in a boat for reasons-of-needs.

Keep em coming!
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Old 02-15-2016, 04:17 PM   #26
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My list is focused on stuff that is not easy to change and coastal cruising.


Wide side decks, critical for safety going forward
NO LADDERS
No inside steering unless over 50'
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Old 02-15-2016, 04:29 PM   #27
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Wifey B: I've washed the teak...not most of the time, but I have. We follow the manufacturer's instructions and use their cleaners. I honestly don't see that there's a huge difference between cleaning the teak and cleaning a fiberglass deck, both done well. Dirt and stains remove about the same. There are some stains and streaks you get on fiberglass you don't get as much on teak. Perhaps I think people are underestimating the task of keeping fiberglass decks truly clean. I think sometimes people are willing to let them go when they aren't willing to do the same on teak. So, I've seen teak cleaned a bazillion times and I've done it myself a few, and just don't see the big difference.

And, yes, I'm younger....guilty. Not young enough to be the granddaughter to many of you though. Well, guess could be if you had a kid at 18 and they had one at 18 as I'm now 35. So if you're 71 I could be.
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Old 02-15-2016, 05:31 PM   #28
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Wifey B: Teak getting a bad rap from you dudes....
Depends on how many decades you have had to put up with maintaining it yourself.
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Old 02-15-2016, 07:00 PM   #29
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Depends on how many decades you have had to put up with maintaining it yourself.
Wifey B: But then doesn't the fiberglass too? I've seen some very bad looking decks after years. I don't fault those who say no to teak. I do think though that it's a lot less work if one always follows the manufacturers care instructions. Now, part of the reason so many have teak issues is the PO didn't care for it properly. Not long ago in a country that shall remain nameless I saw someone turned loose with a pressure washer on teak. Can you say bye bye teak as it goes floating out to sea.
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If you need to ask....you really haven't spent much time with teak.
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Old 02-15-2016, 07:34 PM   #31
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If you need to ask....you really haven't spent much time with teak.
Wifey B: I've spent almost 14 years with it. I love it. I think it's worth the extra work. I've also been on several boats in the 10-15 year old range with teak that was in excellent condition. I'll take the teak you don't want. There's a shortage anyway.
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Old 02-15-2016, 07:49 PM   #32
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Something like this Dave Gerr design;

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or this by Tad Roberts;

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Old 02-15-2016, 07:50 PM   #33
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I've washed the teak...not most of the time, but I have.
If that was in response to my comment about "care" of teak, I hope you don't figure a wash once in a while is taking "care" of your hair.
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Old 02-15-2016, 08:07 PM   #34
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If that was in response to my comment about "care" of teak, I hope you don't figure a wash once in a while is taking "care" of your hair.
Wifey B: Well, I don't know what you guys are getting all over your teak to make it so dirty all the time.

And I do wash all of me including my hair daily. Which that would make an entirely new and debatable topic in how frequently showering and changing clothes when cruising.

No, I was just responding to the implications that I've never cleaned teak. I'm not pretending I do it all the time. However, I do understand the effort the task requires at least on our boat. It seems it requires much more effort on some. Makes me wonder how others clean and care for theirs. Also, if once it has been mistreated, I suspect then it is very difficult from that point forward.
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Old 02-15-2016, 08:26 PM   #36
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Pilothouse with 360-degree view overlooking all other superstructure.

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Efficient, single diesel engine with propeller and rudder protected by keel and a bow thruster.

Sleeps two easily, feeds six, and entertains 10.

Good quantity of fuel and water tankage.

Definitely not needed: (1) flying bridge resulting in unneeded environmental exposure, extra cost, maintenance expense, and windage, and (2) high speed (the purpose is usually the voyage and not the destination).
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So much of boating is getting and keeping control of maintenance.

My prime request for a PNW boat would be a boathouse, or at least covered moorage - that enables you to own older boats with significant exposed wood, teak decks, even woodies themselves, with all the aesthetic opportunities that presents.

Otherwise it's diesel heat with twins, a flybridge, and I'll take it from there.

What I don't need: thruster(s) when I have twins, A/C in the PNW, washer/dryer, inflatables that argue with barnacles.
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1) A pilot house with door(s) to side deck(s).
2) Diesel propulsion with a range of over 2000 nm.
3) Draugt under 5 feet.
4) Self sufficient for at least 6 month (water, refrigeration, washer/dryer, power generation).
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Old 02-16-2016, 01:08 AM   #40
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