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08-06-2016, 12:04 AM
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Guru
City: Portland, OR
Vessel Name: Our Heaven
Vessel Model: 1997 4800 Navigator
Join Date: May 2013
Posts: 801
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Time for a new boat,suggestions welcome!
Well, I just sold the last one and having the love of the water it's time for another. I think I'd like to buy the next boat after this one and skip the in between....so here's my check list
Diesel
Two state rooms
Flybridge
I'd like to avoid teak decks,although I love the look I'd rather not have to face doing something about them under my ownership
Decent mileage I usually have the most fun just cruising - I have already had two gassers on my Tolly and I would not look forward to that again
The ability to go outside the bar, I will relocate the boat at least once a year up to the Puget Sound
No sundeck models or trunks. I really like the ease of a sedan, Europa, or pilothouse style of boat a real great connection to the outdoor space and salon.
I'd like to find something in the PNW
My budget is somewhere around $100k plus or minus
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08-06-2016, 04:28 AM
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Guru
City: Fort Myers, FL... Summers in the Great Lakes
Vessel Name: Slow Hand
Vessel Model: Cherubini Independence 45
Join Date: Dec 2010
Posts: 12,818
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Length?
Ted
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08-06-2016, 05:08 AM
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Guru
City: Jacksonville
Vessel Name: SONAS
Vessel Model: Grand Alaskan 53
Join Date: May 2014
Posts: 7,235
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Quote:
Originally Posted by O C Diver
Length?
Ted
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Why, you thinking of living aboard with him?
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08-06-2016, 05:55 AM
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Guru
City: Punta Gorda, fl
Vessel Name: Escapade
Vessel Model: Nordic Tug 37 2002
Join Date: Jan 2015
Posts: 1,231
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Quote:
Originally Posted by menzies
Why, you thinking of living aboard with him?
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If there is going to be a party, we want him to have room for everybody. 🎉😎🎈
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08-06-2016, 09:44 AM
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Guru
City: Portland, OR
Vessel Name: Our Heaven
Vessel Model: 1997 4800 Navigator
Join Date: May 2013
Posts: 801
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Length
Good question, most of what I have been looking at has been between 36 and mid forties. It's really layout, and less about length. I'll pay the few extra for moorage and the like for the right boat.
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08-06-2016, 09:45 AM
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Guru
City: Jacksonville
Vessel Name: SONAS
Vessel Model: Grand Alaskan 53
Join Date: May 2014
Posts: 7,235
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Quote:
Originally Posted by Pgitug
If there is going to be a party, we want him to have room for everybody. 🎉😎🎈
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Oh I see, he was asking about the boat length. My bad.
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08-06-2016, 10:01 AM
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Guru
City: Seabrook, Texas
Vessel Name: Small World
Vessel Model: Defever 50
Join Date: Sep 2014
Posts: 611
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Check out Defever 44s.
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08-06-2016, 11:17 AM
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Guru
City: Portland, OR
Vessel Name: Our Heaven
Vessel Model: 1997 4800 Navigator
Join Date: May 2013
Posts: 801
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Defever
Looks like the Defevers break the bank. From the surface the engine room on the 44 looks to be a real bonus. I'd like to see something though that has a large slider or oversized door from the cockpit to the salon.
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08-06-2016, 11:54 PM
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TF Site Team
City: California Delta
Vessel Name: FlyWright
Vessel Model: 1977 Marshall Californian 34 LRC
Join Date: Apr 2008
Posts: 13,728
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I'd look at the 38 Californian LRC Sedan...but I'm a bit biased, I suppose. It's a nice size sedan for 2-4 without breaking the bank. It's a lot like the 34 on steroids. Double door opening to the ample cockpit. It really brings the outdoors in.
Do you prefer galley up or down?
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08-07-2016, 09:18 AM
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Veteran Member
City: Brownsville, WA
Join Date: Mar 2016
Posts: 71
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Check out the PT38 and PT41 Europa. There are not a ton of them around, but I think our '81 PT38 is a solid boat. There were a few for sale locally when we were shopping. I'm not sure about running outside in the ocean as we are already in Puget Sound.
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08-07-2016, 10:01 AM
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Guru
City: Portland, OR
Vessel Name: Our Heaven
Vessel Model: 1997 4800 Navigator
Join Date: May 2013
Posts: 801
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All good suggestions
Flywrite, I have my eye on a 34' locally and will be looking into it. Probably going to ask my broker to preview first as its six hours away. I love the use of space on them from the side berth and forward v. We don't need a massive amount of room in our births the more salon, cockpit and flybridge we have the better. I would also consider another Tolly. That was my favorite so far. But I won't do gas again.
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08-07-2016, 12:53 PM
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Senior Member
City: Southern California
Vessel Model: Mainship 390
Join Date: Sep 2012
Posts: 253
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Mainship 350/390
Checks your list - though bumping just over 100K. (Purchase price, not YW asking price) Able to do offshore no problem. Mine's been up/down the west coast - and into the Sea of Cortez. Fantastic functional bridge, yet great conversational arrangement when guests aboard - one of our favorite features.
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08-07-2016, 03:26 PM
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TF Site Team
City: California Delta
Vessel Name: FlyWright
Vessel Model: 1977 Marshall Californian 34 LRC
Join Date: Apr 2008
Posts: 13,728
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Quote:
Originally Posted by bshillam
Flywrite, I have my eye on a 34' locally and will be looking into it. Probably going to ask my broker to preview first as its six hours away. I love the use of space on them from the side berth and forward v. We don't need a massive amount of room in our births the more salon, cockpit and flybridge we have the better. I would also consider another Tolly. That was my favorite so far. But I won't do gas again.
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The 34 is a great boat for me, but you might find the salon is a little tight for more than 2. Opening the aft doors makes a big difference. Drinks 6, feeds 4, sleeps 2 works well for us. Much of the time I'm running solo, so it feels even bigger to me!!
We have the fwd bunks which makes for a great walk-in closet for us. The amidship stateroom is our main berth. I measured the LOA long ago and came up with 36'8", IIRC.
Most Tollycraft boats I've seen are gassers.
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08-08-2016, 10:25 AM
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Guru
City: Portland, OR
Vessel Name: Our Heaven
Vessel Model: 1997 4800 Navigator
Join Date: May 2013
Posts: 801
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Here are the top choices so far,
42 Ocean Alexander, from what I understand this is a cored hull including my second choice
4588 Bayliner
47 Defever, I have looked over the net and am still trying to figure out if this is a cored boat or solid? How it would rate against the other two I am comparing.
I love the engine room of the Defever Offshore 44 but this isn't a semi planing. I really need to come to terms with the fact that both my wife and I are working professionals and sometimes time is more important. I love cruising at 7-9 knots but when given the choice on a Friday night to get to our dock space vs having to leave Saturday morning I'd rather be on the dock Friday night. So a semi planing hull is probably going to be on the list. Anyone know of a semi planing that has a near stand up engine room?
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08-08-2016, 10:33 AM
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Moderator Emeritus
City: SEWARD ALASKA
Vessel Name: DOS PECES
Vessel Model: BAYLINER 4788
Join Date: Feb 2011
Posts: 6,263
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Quote:
Originally Posted by bshillam
Anyone know of a semi planing that has a near stand up engine room?
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Yes, it's right next to my unicorn's corral.
In all seriousness, I was onboard a Norland I think, right at 50' OAL that has a pretty much stand up engine room.
Great engine room, and nice boat, but no pilothouse.
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08-10-2016, 10:46 AM
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Guru
City: Portland, OR
Vessel Name: Our Heaven
Vessel Model: 1997 4800 Navigator
Join Date: May 2013
Posts: 801
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__________________
“Try something you could fail at. We all do things that we can comfortably achieve, but rarely do we set the high bar one notch above what we think we can clear, and that’s what’s driving me on here.” Lieutenant Colonel Alastair Edward Henry Worsley MBE (4 October 1960 – 24 January 2016) Explorer
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08-10-2016, 07:09 PM
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#17
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Senior Member
City: Olympia
Vessel Name: No Plans
Vessel Model: 1965 TollyCraft Voyager
Join Date: Apr 2012
Posts: 107
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Ohh boy, didn't you go through a Tolly and the Willard in the last two years? Well, change is good.
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08-10-2016, 10:25 PM
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Member
City: Dhaka
Join Date: Jul 2016
Posts: 5
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How about Helmsman 37 Sedan? Flybridge is also good to go...
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08-10-2016, 11:53 PM
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Moderator Emeritus
City: SEWARD ALASKA
Vessel Name: DOS PECES
Vessel Model: BAYLINER 4788
Join Date: Feb 2011
Posts: 6,263
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Quote:
Originally Posted by bshillam
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They all look like great boats!
I have a friend with that same model Nordic. I love the engine room height!
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08-11-2016, 12:32 AM
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Guru
City: Portland, OR
Vessel Name: Our Heaven
Vessel Model: 1997 4800 Navigator
Join Date: May 2013
Posts: 801
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Quote:
Originally Posted by MVNoPlans
Ohh boy, didn't you go through a Tolly and the Willard in the last two years? Well, change is good.
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Yes I did - didn't care for gas engines in the Tolly and then went to the extreme and went too slow. 6 knots when you have child and a dog and want to go 40 miles just takes too long.
Maybe this time we'll do just a bit better identifying our next boat.
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