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12-19-2012, 03:17 PM
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#101
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Scraping Paint
City: -
Join Date: Oct 2007
Posts: 13,745
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Quote:
Originally Posted by Art
Only reason a boater could care less bout anchors and think this thread's discussion regarding currents is ridiculous is because the person has not much experience with anchoring or traveling in currents. Just sayen!
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There you go, Rick. A nice slow ball right down the middle........
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12-19-2012, 03:22 PM
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#102
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Scraping Paint
City: Fort Lauderdale
Vessel Model: CHB 48 Zodiac YL 4.2
Join Date: Oct 2007
Posts: 3,804
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Quote:
Originally Posted by Art
Only reason a boater could care less bout anchors and think this thread's discussion regarding currents is ridiculous is because the person has not much experience with anchoring or traveling in currents. Just sayen!
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Yeah, that's it. I guess a couple decades of running tugs and ferries and coastal freigters up the inside between Seattle and SE and around Vancouver Island, the Aleutians, and the QC's doesn't count for much travelling in currents or anchoring in bays and coves in the PNW compared to the seasoned salts who post here.
It taught me enough to recognize BS when I read it though.
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12-19-2012, 03:29 PM
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#103
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Guru
City: Kitimat, North Coast BC
Vessel Name: Badger
Vessel Model: 30' Sundowner Tug
Join Date: Jul 2012
Posts: 5,946
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Gosh, I think I feel a group hug coming up
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12-19-2012, 03:37 PM
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#104
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TF Site Team
City: California Delta
Vessel Name: FlyWright
Vessel Model: 1977 Marshall Californian 34 LRC
Join Date: Apr 2008
Posts: 13,728
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Quote:
Originally Posted by MurrayM
Gosh, I think I feel a group hug coming up
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Are you new around these parts?
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12-19-2012, 03:42 PM
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#105
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Guru
City: Kitimat, North Coast BC
Vessel Name: Badger
Vessel Model: 30' Sundowner Tug
Join Date: Jul 2012
Posts: 5,946
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Quote:
Originally Posted by FlyWright
Are you new around these parts?
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Sorry, got delusional, again. Must be the solstice coming up making me feel all "We're all alone on this lonely planet, so why not try to get along already"?
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12-19-2012, 03:45 PM
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#106
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Guru
City: Vallejo, California
Vessel Name: Mahalo Moi
Vessel Model: 1986 Grand Banks 42 Classic
Join Date: Jun 2008
Posts: 2,093
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Lol! Hey,Al, just hot back from Utah and Idaho. I'll call you tomorrow if you're around. Same with you, Mark.
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"Mahalo Moi"
1986 GB-42 Classic
ΜΟΛΩΝ ΛΑβΕ
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12-19-2012, 03:46 PM
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#107
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Guru
Vessel Name: Anastasia III
Vessel Model: Krogen 42
Join Date: Oct 2007
Posts: 2,716
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Ah, silence is golden.
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12-19-2012, 03:48 PM
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#108
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Guru
City: Vallejo, California
Vessel Name: Mahalo Moi
Vessel Model: 1986 Grand Banks 42 Classic
Join Date: Jun 2008
Posts: 2,093
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How'd you know?
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"Mahalo Moi"
1986 GB-42 Classic
ΜΟΛΩΝ ΛΑβΕ
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12-19-2012, 03:55 PM
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#109
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Guru
City: SF Bay Area
Vessel Model: Tollycraft 34' Tri Cabin
Join Date: Feb 2011
Posts: 12,569
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Quote:
Originally Posted by RickB
Yeah, that's it. I guess a couple decades of running tugs and ferries and coastal freigters up the inside between Seattle and SE and around Vancouver Island, the Aleutians, and the QC's doesn't count for much travelling in currents or anchoring in bays and coves in the PNW compared to the seasoned salts who post here.
It taught me enough to recognize BS when I read it though.
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Well, Rick... maybe I was wrong about you! And, that you actually well understand the complications for private pleasure craft (this forum's Trawler contingent) in respect to navigating in currents and choosing the correct style/size anchors and rode for stowage aboard boat and for anchoring in different bottom conditions...sometimes during violent storms.
Were you the Captain, or pilot, or helmsman or... on the commercial vessels you mention? To any extent you may have been aboard these “ships” (not pleasure craft) I bet you did not need to worry about the safe-anchor type, rode, or extra fuel used by fighting currents... cause corporate types took care of those negligible details for ya! Important details for us as private boat owners, the Captains of our own toy boats, i.e. Pleasure Trawlers. We need to make the correct decisions time after time!
BTW: What type of pleasure boat do you currently own and use... what pleasure boats did you previously own and use?
I’m just trying to level the waters her to find out if I’m talking to a seaman with pleasure boat (what this forum’s all about) experience way over my head – or not!?!? I only go back into the mid 20th Century for costal cruising, inland waters ways, and protective bay usages with pleasure craft.
Looking forward to learn your pleasure boat experience!
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12-19-2012, 03:58 PM
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#110
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TF Site Team
City: California Delta
Vessel Name: FlyWright
Vessel Model: 1977 Marshall Californian 34 LRC
Join Date: Apr 2008
Posts: 13,728
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Quote:
Originally Posted by Giggitoni
Lol! Hey,Al, just hot back from Utah and Idaho. I'll call you tomorrow if you're around. Same with you, Mark.
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Around? Hell ya, I'm around...cause I'm retired now!!! (Sorry, had to rub it in just a little more!)
BTW, that reminds me....my wife tells me I've got to get in shape now that I'm retired. I told her, "Round is a shape!"
Talk to you tomorrow.
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12-19-2012, 04:05 PM
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#111
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Guru
City: Whittier AK
Vessel Name: Apache II
Vessel Model: 1974 Donald Jones
Join Date: Oct 2007
Posts: 3,147
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The world ends the day after tomorrow. 12/21/12
We may never know about Rick B's pleasure boating experience.
Or if Eric will ever find the perfect anchor.
Will Marin ever find another use (other than a door stop) for his Bruce anchor?
Did Flyright ever really teach a man to fish?
And on and on.
sd
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12-19-2012, 04:11 PM
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#112
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Guru
City: Everett, WA
Vessel Name: Honey Badger
Vessel Model: 42' CHB Europa
Join Date: Oct 2011
Posts: 784
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Quote:
Originally Posted by skipperdude
The world ends the day after tomorrow. 12/21/12
We may never know about Rick B's pleasure boating experience.
Or if Eric will ever find the perfect anchor.
Will Marin ever find another use (other than a door stop) for his Bruce anchor?
Did Flyright ever really teach a man to fish?
And on and on.
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We should ask Marin's dog...
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12-19-2012, 04:30 PM
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#113
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Scraping Paint
City: Fort Lauderdale
Vessel Model: CHB 48 Zodiac YL 4.2
Join Date: Oct 2007
Posts: 3,804
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Quote:
Originally Posted by Art
Looking forward to learn your pleasure boat experience!
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If you knew anything about how "inside" tugs are manned you wouldn't hint with such disdain at the scope of such activities. We hauled barges up and down the inside and across to the QC's with boats not much bigger than the toy boats a few here own. A three or 4 man boat running 24 hours a day requires everyone to participate in the operation which includes navigation and operation and I earned a master's ticket doing it.
We anchored everywhere from Elliot Bay to Prince William Sound, and the South East; Bristol Bay to Akutan and Dutch Harbor. We took tows into no-name coves and inlets on the outside of Vancouver Island and most all points along the inside and inlets that you never even heard of wherever floating logging camps were located.
My personally owned toy boats ranged from 12 foot Zodiacs to 24 foot lake union style "dreamboats" to 26 foot sailboats and a 65' wooden tug converted to a yacht and a couple of CHBs from 34' to 48'. I crewed on a large yacht cruising South East and anchored in every inlet and cove on just about every island up there. Is that sufficient to speak of "boating" in your presence?
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12-19-2012, 04:38 PM
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#114
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Guru
City: Whittier AK
Vessel Name: Apache II
Vessel Model: 1974 Donald Jones
Join Date: Oct 2007
Posts: 3,147
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Crack!!!!
Out of the park.
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12-19-2012, 04:44 PM
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#115
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Guru
City: SF Bay Area
Vessel Model: Tollycraft 34' Tri Cabin
Join Date: Feb 2011
Posts: 12,569
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Quote:
Originally Posted by SomeSailor
We should ask Marin's dog...
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Listen to the dogs to learn if 12/21 (or any other day/night) may have a BIG problem.
Point in fact: 1989 on the day of the Loma Prieta Earth Quake in SF Bay area I was building a substantial sized retaining wall in a residential neighborhood. Had been doing so for some time that year. That day the dogs in the neighborhood simply would not stop howling and barking. I well remember it being very annoying and the dog on location was incredibly skitty all day, never at rest with often a low whimper when not barking or howling. Before then the neighborhood dogs were quiet and the location dog usually was laying down, often asleep. After shutting the project down for the night I drove to a tavern in order to watch the World Series on their projector screen. As I stepped out of my truck on a side street is when the BIG Tumbler struck. It took my one ton 4WD PU and tossed it around so much that I watched the wheels leave the ground by inches. I began to fall in the street and crouched down into a safety position to stay in balance, on my feet. Ever since I listen very carefully to area dog noises... cause they know/feel things we simply don’t.
Soooo... ya never know, Marin’s dog may just understand more about boating than all of us put together! -
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12-19-2012, 04:52 PM
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#116
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Guru
City: SF Bay Area
Vessel Model: Tollycraft 34' Tri Cabin
Join Date: Feb 2011
Posts: 12,569
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Quote:
Originally Posted by RickB
If you knew anything about how "inside" tugs are manned you wouldn't hint with such disdain at the scope of such activities. We hauled barges up and down the inside and across to the QC's with boats not much bigger than the toy boats a few here own. A three or 4 man boat running 24 hours a day requires everyone to participate in the operation which includes navigation and operation and I earned a master's ticket doing it.
We anchored everywhere from Elliot Bay to Prince William Sound, and the South East; Bristol Bay to Akutan and Dutch Harbor. We took tows into no-name coves and inlets on the outside of Vancouver Island and most all points along the inside and inlets that you never even heard of wherever floating logging camps were located.
My personally owned toy boats ranged from 12 foot Zodiacs to 24 foot lake union style "dreamboats" to 26 foot sailboats and a 65' wooden tug converted to a yacht and a couple of CHBs from 34' to 48'. I crewed on a large yacht cruising South East and anchored in every inlet and cove on just about every island up there. Is that sufficient to speak of "boating" in your presence?
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TY for splanen, nice come back, Rick, you be da Man! My hat's off to ya!!
So, although I know you feel anchors are not worth a discussion, and because I admire your experience and background, please do tell us, on your current pleasure boat what type anchor do you like best??
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12-19-2012, 04:59 PM
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#117
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Enigma
City: Slicker?
Join Date: Oct 2007
Posts: 16,565
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RTF
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12-19-2012, 05:03 PM
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#118
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Guru
City: Concrete Washington State
Vessel Name: Willy
Vessel Model: Willard Nomad 30'
Join Date: Oct 2007
Posts: 18,743
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Anchors. Currents.
Don't kike'um. But here you are Rick.
Prop slip ?? Slippery subject But I'll bet it happens.
Especially if you've got a sack full of pitch.
But that's another thread.
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North Western Washington State USA
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12-19-2012, 05:10 PM
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#119
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TF Site Team
City: California Delta
Vessel Name: FlyWright
Vessel Model: 1977 Marshall Californian 34 LRC
Join Date: Apr 2008
Posts: 13,728
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Quote:
Originally Posted by skipperdude
The world ends the day after tomorrow. 12/21/12
Did Flyright ever really teach a man to fish?
And on and on.
sd
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All I'm sayin' is that one day, a guy taught me how to fish. That's all I remember...
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12-19-2012, 05:26 PM
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#120
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Moderator Emeritus
City: San Jose, CA
Vessel Name: Pineapple Girl 3
Vessel Model: Silverton 38c
Join Date: Jun 2010
Posts: 2,171
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I've learned a lot about dogs from this thread. other than that it's mostly amusing to read everyone's posts. Thank you everyone for being (relatively) nice in making fun of each other and pointing out how wrong everyone else is.
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2003 Silverton 38c (not a trawler)
Marina Village, Alameda
San Francisco Bay Area
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