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Old 10-05-2010, 11:35 AM   #1
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Hey Eric,* you still there?* Hopefully you have not blown away yet.* I'm tracking the weather since we depart next week, and when I checked the Lincon rock report I see you are experiencing some brisk winds...* 87K gusts!!!!!!!!!*


<table bgcolor="#f0f8fe" border="0" cellpadding="2" cellspacing="0"><caption class="titleDataHeader">Conditions at LCNA2 as of
(8:00 am AKDT)
1600 GMT on 10/05/2010:</caption> <tbody><tr><td colspan="3" bgcolor="#ffffff"> Unit of Measure: English Metric Time Zone: Station Local TimeGreenwich Mean Time [GMT]British Summer Time [GMT+1]Eastern Greenland [GMT-1]Azores [GMT-2]Western Greenland [GMT-3]Atlantic Standard [GMT-4]US/Eastern StandardUS/Central StandardUS/Mountain StandardUS/Pacific StandardAlaska Standard [GMT-9]Hawaii-Aleutian Standard [GMT-10]Samoa Standard [GMT-11]International Date Line West [GMT-12]Western European [GMT+0]Central European [GMT+1]Eastern European [GMT+2]Moscow [GMT+3]USSR Zone 3 [GMT+4]USSR Zone 4 [GMT+5]USSR Zone 5 [GMT+6]USSR Zone 6 [GMT+7]China Coast [GMT+8]Japan Standard [GMT+9]Guam Standard [GMT+10]GMT+11International Date Line East [GMT+12]
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</td></tr><tr><td></td> <td>Wind Direction (WDIR):</td> <td>SSE ( 160 deg true )</td></tr><tr><td></td> <td>Wind Speed (WSPD):</td> <td>61.0 kts</td></tr><tr><td></td> <td>Wind Gust (GST):</td> <td>87.0 kts</td></tr><tr><td></td> <td>Atmospheric Pressure (PRES):</td> <td>29.69 in</td></tr><tr><td></td> <td>Pressure Tendency (PTDY):</td> <td>-0.05 in ( Falling )</td></tr><tr><td></td> <td colspan="2">Combined plot of Wind Speed, Gust, and Air Pressure

</td></tr></tbody></table>.........................Arctic Traveller
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Old 10-05-2010, 03:41 PM   #2
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RE: Thorne Bay winds

You guys can keep that up there.
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Old 10-05-2010, 05:58 PM   #3
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We have some friends at Meyers Chuck, about 12 mi east of Thorne Bay, who have seen 100 knots in winter.
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Old 10-05-2010, 06:23 PM   #4
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I think the blows already over and it didn't amount to much. WE WERE NOT AT LINCOLN ROCK. But we had gusts probably a bit over 50. The last blow (the 1st gale of the season) was noticeably worse. Lincoln Rock seems to always be BAD. The winds in Juneau are a bit worse w the cold air screaming down off the 10 sq mi Juneau Ice Cap * *....The Taku Wind.Frequently one needs parking meters, telephone poles and parked cars to stay erect. I've got to get all my tools together to go on the grid Thursday. We go to town tomorrow. We'll hit the bank and then the saloons in that order.
Tom,....it's amazing we have any trees left up here eh?


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Old 10-05-2010, 06:40 PM   #5
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Eric--- Is that where the wind left your boat?
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Old 10-06-2010, 12:48 AM   #6
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Love that bow-on view of Willy.


Bow view of the Carquinez Coot, unfortunately at a higher angle.



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Old 10-06-2010, 02:34 AM   #7
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Hey Eric,* you still there?* Hopefully you have not blown away yet.*...

Thorne Bay looks highly protected to me.*
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Old 10-06-2010, 04:15 AM   #8
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The bow looks great , there is still time to weld in the goodies to carry the anchors outboard.

Still have to wash the chain , but the big toe stubers at least can drip the ooze back in the bay.
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Old 10-06-2010, 11:46 AM   #9
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Yea guys I'm still here. I was going to tell you'all the wind blew the boat on the grid but figured you would'nt believe me. Thorne Bay is protected better than one would think. I've poked my bow out in the past when it's just a bit more than light breezes and holy cow look at all the white breaking seas. Miles and moles of frothing 7' seas. Don't understand why more wind dos'nt get in to town. Heavy rain and some wind today. Like your bow shot too Mark but what I really want to see is the stern. That's the end that tell what kind of boat it is. What is that red thing on your trunk cabin? I think what FF has in mind for your anchor is this:
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Old 10-06-2010, 01:27 PM   #10
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Mark,* love the name of your boat, I spent many years boating there.* I too think FF's idea has a lot of merit, you just have to decide which anchor to get.......Arctic Traveller
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Old 10-06-2010, 02:47 PM   #11
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...*Like your bow shot too Mark but what I really want to see is the stern. That's the end that tell what kind of boat it is. What is that red thing on your trunk cabin? I think what FF has in mind for your anchor is this:
The anchor will be held on top of the pointy end like most other boats.

That thing on the cabin is a power tool (sander?).

The Coot's*stern is flat/square unlike Willy's curves:




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Old 10-06-2010, 02:53 PM   #12
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Thanks, Traveller. ...* It is safer if I don't reveal my anchor selection.* I'll only go so far as to say it has no moving parts.
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Old 10-06-2010, 03:54 PM   #13
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Is any body working on the boat. All the pics and none with workers scurring around with torches and grinders.
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It's a small company.* My impression is that work is done as the materials and appropriately-skilled workmen become available.* Painting the exterior won't take place until the beginning of next year.* I understand that installation of the floors is presently ongoing.
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Old 10-06-2010, 05:23 PM   #15
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Here is a photoof *someone else's Coot showing its complete hull.

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Thanks, Traveller. ...* It is safer if I don't reveal my anchor selection.* I'll only go so far as to say it has no moving parts.
I completely understand why you don't want to open THAT can of worms!!* Actually, I found that almost any anchor works well in the bay.* Well, except perhaps for the one on a sailboat that went up on the beach near Berkeley one winter long ago.* I hiked down to have a look, and the owner was aboard sorting through what was left. I asked what happened, and he said he just got the boat, and was anchored the night before when the anchor let go in the middle of the night.* When I asked what he had for an anchor, he pulled on the anchor line to show me, and I kid you not, there was an old bicycle frame at the end........................Arctic Traveller

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Mark,Is that Coot as in bird or old fart?
I see your hull lines. Thanx. It looks a lot like a Charles Neville boat or Stephen Seaton's Sluggo. Sluggo has a narrower stern looking a bit like a Krogen. Marin would love Sluggo. Your aft section is rather banana shaped. A long run aft w much more curve in it than a GB but still a fairly straight line. You have a small bit of emersed transom as do both Seaton's and Neville's boats. This is the shape I'd like to see on GBs and NTs. Coot looks like she should run at the higher end of the range of full displacement craft. Most FD hulls require too much power to run close to or at "hull speed". Your Coot should do that nicely. Ther'e are FD trawlers that will be a bit more efficient but I think we're talk'in fly stuff. I'm going to guess she has 5 to 7 hp per ton. You're going to really like that boat Mark.
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Is that Coot as in bird or old fart? ...
Take your pick, Eric.* Giving you a choice was*part of the*reason for naming the boat "Carquinez Coot."

... And thanks for your input.* Here is a site from the designer showing the boat's design/lines and describing its philosophy.* It also includes a theoretical speed curve.* It says the boat can achieve 9 knots at 149 horsepower, but the boat is coming with only a 85 horsepower engine, but I expect to travel mostly between 6 and 7 knots which that smaller engine should handle easily.* (Note,*my boat has a smaller pilothouse, larger saloon, smaller stern deck, different interior, and*no stern-end steering station than shown in the drawings.)

http://www.dieselducks.com/Coot.html

Here is the interior design for my Coot:





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Wonderful boat mark. Dos'nt look like a DD aft at all. I would make (or want to make quite a few mods) to the cabin exterior and the main salon. I'd probably go 7 knots also but with a 65 hp Isuzu and a bit more heavily loaded. I'd go w a dinette rather than the U shaped seetee. The cabin styling is pure workboat and this is a yacht *.. and the *my only criticism.Oh * ... and the 150 hp is nuts. Wish I had the money (and it's not all that much). The
Carquinez Coot will be very much at home in Alaska.
PS * * *Paint all the hand rails a dark color. See that other Coot on the crane * * ....looks way to busy w the bright rails.


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I'm curious since I must have passed by Thorne Bay at least 10 times on cruising ships...

I've found no public transportation to Thorne Bay.* Is private airplane or boat the only method of getting to/from the nearest*"civilization/big-city" of Ketchikan?* How do people make a living in TB?* What is its attraction?* What kind of folk live there (I'm wondering if it could be suitable for me)?

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