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Old 01-09-2011, 11:23 AM   #41
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Back to my original comment, today is another cold January day with no boating.*
You PNW folks might want to look the other way.* All things considered,*I'd rather be where this guy is.** KJ*

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Old 01-09-2011, 11:49 AM   #42
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I moved to Belize,C.A. because the only way I ever want to see Ice, is floating in Rum! B.
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Old 01-09-2011, 12:51 PM   #43
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Bill, I did some diving in Belize at Turneffe Atoll a couple of years ago.*
Simply phenomenal.**Wouldn't mind being there now.*** KJ

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I live out on Caye Caulker
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Bill,I live in Alaska and I've been thinking for some time about going to Belize. I hope to see pics. I have a book on Belize and will try to find you on a map. If you've ever driven through Mexico to Belize I'd like your take on that. Ideally I'd like a bungalow, a OB skiff and a couple of kayaks for about 3 months of the winter. One rarely gets utopia though.
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Old 01-09-2011, 02:53 PM   #46
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I live out on Caye Caulker
Nice place to live.*I have a friend that worked at one of the dive shops on Caye Caulker.
I've been meaning to get down to Sapodilla Cayes and Gladden Spit for some whale shark diving.
Do you keep a boat down there?* Do you*dive?** KJ*

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KJ, that looks like Foxy's dock on Jost Van Dyke...* Am I right?

Been there many times, and now that we own our own boat we can't afford it any more!

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Old 01-09-2011, 06:44 PM   #48
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Absolutley right.* Heaven on earth.***

Foxy's Bar** Jost Van Dyke BVI
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GonzoF1 wrote:One thing that may not be that widely known is the amount of rampant racism and discrimination that still exists there. If you are not a native Hawaiian, good luck getting a job or being treated like anything but a second-class citizen.
First sentence is right, second sentence is dead wrong.* It's actually the other way round.* The "native" Hawaiians are very near the bottom of the economic scale and other than a more recent move toward trying to get "reparations" like the native tribes and blacks on the mainland, they are still at or near the bottom of the economic scale.* This was true in 1955 when we moved over there, it was true in 1979 when I left, and according to people I used to work with who have just recently moved to the PNW, it is still true today.

The "scale" in Hawaii goes like this, from the top down.

1. Chinese-Americans who actually own everything-- land, companies, banks, etc.

2.* Caucasians (haoles) who manage and run everything.

3.* Japanese-Americans who do everything in terms of office jobs, store clerks, broadcast engineers, etc.

4.* When I lived there the Filipinos were moving up the social scale as their position as the agricultural labor force was filled by Portuguese.* Agriculture is almost completely gone now, so I'm not sure today where the Filipinos and Portuguese sit on the economic and social scale.* Probably about even with the Japanese-Americans I'm guessing.

5.* Samoans.* Hawaii has a large Samoan population.* They were the "tough" ones who you don''t mess with or go into their neighborhoods at night.* The ones who work tend to have menial jobs.* When I lived there they had an absolute lock on the palm tree trimming business.* This is a major industry in Hawaii because palm trees on public property cannot achieve maturity with their coconuts because of the extreme danger to people below if the the coconuts start to fall.* So the coconuts have to be removed manually and given the vast number of them and the year-round growing season, trimming them a full-time profession.* The business is pretty lucrative and when I was there anyone who was not Samoan and who tried to get in on this business simpy "disappeared."* But outside of the tree-trimming work, Samoans didn't do much.

6.* Hawaiians.* The people who can trace their roots back to the Hawaiians who inhabited the islands first enjoy a very high social status because the islands' history is much revered by everyone.* But they were at the absolute bottom of the economic scale and from what I hear still are as a generality.* There are a number of reasons for this.

Obviously people from these six "groups" marry each other and their kids reflect all sorts of things.* So the common term for describing anyone who wasn't obvioulsy a caucasian (called haole over there, which is the Hawaiian word for white) is "local."** It's not a derogatory term, it's a way of physically describing somebody.* "He's a local guy," means that he's not a haole.

In the broader context "local" means an established resident.* So if your friend's statement is modified to read, "If you are not a local, good luck getting a job...." that is correct.* "Local" includes everyone listed above.* And your friend is correct in that, for the most part, locals automatically don't like newcomers.* Obviously a newcomer can live there long enough to earn "local" status at which point they are one and will dislike the newcomers as much as all the other locals.

And of course the absolute bottom of the barrel are tourists.* It's ironic that the same people who today provide the bulk of the state's income (they didn't when I first moved there, the military did) are the most despised people on the planet in Hawaii.* The locals aren't stupid--- they treat the tourists nice to their faces (usually) because they know what pays the bills.* But outside of that, tourists are despised with a ferocity you have to experience to believe.* I and the people I worked with in television were no different.

So... melting pot of the Pacific, as the Hawaii Visitor's Bureau used to say, it ain't.
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Old 01-10-2011, 09:57 PM   #50
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Alternative Therapy**** At last-- blue skies and sunshine, but still pretty cold.
As the once great Zen Master ObiWan Kenobi said "two*out of three ain't bad".

Strawberry Flats, Sierra Nevada Mts,* 1/10/11
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Where's the ocean?
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And why not the Swiss Alps in late October 2010 in the comfort of a train?



Love those stone-arch bridges!

An Adriatic/Mediterranean Sea and Atlantic Ocean*cruise (Venice to New York)*followed shortly!


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Old 01-10-2011, 10:51 PM   #53
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It's about 80 miles to the west.* They call it San Francisco Bay, a beautiful place.*

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It's about 80 miles to the west.* They call it San Francisco Bay, a beautiful place.*



No, doesn't count.* It's south of the Oregon border.* Our boat spent it's whole life in San Francisco Bay until we liberated it in 1998.* To this day every time we get on the boat it thanks us profusely for taking it out of that hell-hole.* It's becoming embarrassing.

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Where's the ocean?
It's about 80 miles to the west.* They call it San Francisco Bay, a beautiful place.*

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No, doesn't count.* It's south of the Oregon border.* Our boat spent it's whole life in San Francisco Bay until we liberated it in 1998.* To this day every time we get on the boat it thanks us profusely for taking it out of that hell-hole.* It's becoming embarrassing.

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There are some members of this forum that live in the San Francisco Bay area.* I think you owe them an apology.* No one is showing such disrespect for your living area.* I'm sure these folks are quite happy and proud of where they live.* It's seems like you have to debate every topic that comes up and find someway to put a negative spin on it. It gets old real fast.* The San Francisco Bay area has some very beautiful places. I don't think you have the right to call someones else's residence a "hell-hole".

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I have driven down here to Belize, from Sarasota ,Florida. I would not do it right now because of all the violence in the north.
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I have a 26 C.C. and I dive and fish alot. Going back to Fla. in Feb. to look over several Trawler sedans to bring down here. Been looking for a year on line,now its time to walk some docks. Bill
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belizebill,Nothing better than walk'in docks.
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Belizebill

You must have your directions confused. The real violence is South and West of you. The violent crime rate in Belize is over twice that of Mexico and your chances of being a victim of police corruption is also greater in Belize. It's just a much smaller country.


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before you consider Belize, do some serious study.


The murder rate in Belize is over 6 times that of the US and it has some of the most restrictive gun possession laws in the Caribbean. Prohibition of flare guns and bullet proof vests is now before the National Assembly.


Drug use and sale is rampant.


Belize is by far the most expensive country in Central America and one of the most expensive in the Caribbean.


Police corruption is a way of life.


Infrastructure is non-existent.


Beef is terrible but fish is great.


Beer is terrible and expensive.


The educational system is abysmal.


Unless you live in a bunker, you can not live in Belize part-time without a caretaker. The philosophy generally is " you have it, I want it so it is OK to take it."


Of course most of the above is no different than most of the rest of Central America or the Caribbean.






Now the good parts:


Rum is cheap in all respects.


From one of the finest beaches in Belize in front of my house, within a 15 min. drive I can be in a savannah, jungle and and mountain waterfalls.


The people, in general, are wonderful especially the older generation. A good number of the younger generation are thugs, *thieves and druggies.


It is a beautiful diverse country.


You can actually own property as a foreigner.


Taxes are almost non-existent. The property taxes on my beachfront 5000 sqft home are USD $16/yr.






I do not regret building in Belize, but if I were doing it again today I would seriously consider Mexico or Honduras.
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Hiya,
** Mr. BB.* Is that your dock or the one in front of Chocolate's dive shop?* It DOES appear to be on front street.
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