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Old 06-05-2013, 04:32 PM   #21
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For some reason, I like the Sea Rays much better...
Sea Rays...Maxums...Carvers...rtc. Either of those have molded in steps if they were built in the late 90s or later.
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Old 06-05-2013, 05:19 PM   #22
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I'd give the American Tug 395 a good look. It has an optional fly bridge too.
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Old 06-05-2013, 05:46 PM   #23
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Since you haven't spent much time on a boat I would charter a trawler of your liking and head out for a week on the ICW.
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Old 06-05-2013, 05:47 PM   #24
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Cobber-I think you may be placing a bit more emphasis on worrying about prop/gear damage on a twin than it really deserves...Please note that this is not an attempt to revive the single v twin debate, just one man's opinion.
I appreciate that indeed we may be putting an inordinate amount of emphasis on the possibility of prop damage. After 20 years on submarines, especially having conducted under-ice missions, protecting the screw is deeply ingrained, likely to a fault. The Senator 42 that we looked at had two well protected props and had it not been for what we felt was excessive hull blistering (no attempt to revive that discussion either....our decision was based on nothing more that our comfort with the existing condition) we may have made the move.

If we back off on any of our requirements it will likely be the single engine.
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Old 06-05-2013, 05:59 PM   #25
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My boat is a sundeck. Heritage east 40.

I think you may be in for 2 engines
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The HE40 was on our list to look at as there was one in Pensacola and we were going to be helping our daughter move from the Orlando area up to P-cola. Unfortunately the move dates changes and we never got up there to look, and after the number of no-go viewings in this area we were not wanting to drive 8 hours just to look. There is another one that is somewhere in FL that will soon be transiting back home to Ontario, and we may end up having some of friends in that area go look for us. However, if we end up with a two diesels I'd like to have 120/135's, and from what vie seen the HE40s typically have Perkins 6-354 200hp engines. If I may ask, what do you have for power?
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By the way, if we are going to be "stranded" without a boat, there are worse places to be. This is our view of last weeks Air Force satellite launch overlooking Cocoa Village Marina. If we are going to be land locked for a while, this ain't so bad!
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Old 06-05-2013, 07:14 PM   #27
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Check out the Ocean Alexander 39-42-44-46 series of sundecks. The 42-46 all have a cockpit. All twins, but various engine brands were available. Good build quality, spacious, and efficient Monk hull. Spectacular joinery.

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Old 06-05-2013, 07:29 PM   #28
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Blue,
The HE40 was on our list to look at as there was one in Pensacola and we were going to be helping our daughter move from the Orlando area up to P-cola. Unfortunately the move dates changes and we never got up there to look, and after the number of no-go viewings in this area we were not wanting to drive 8 hours just to look. There is another one that is somewhere in FL that will soon be transiting back home to Ontario, and we may end up having some of friends in that area go look for us. However, if we end up with a two diesels I'd like to have 120/135's, and from what vie seen the HE40s typically have Perkins 6-354 200hp engines. If I may ask, what do you have for power?
Not for nothing, but I have chartered Heritage 36 in BVI on a couple of occasions. I liked the layout of the boat, but the down galley was like being in the pit of Hell, and there was very little airflow through the aft cabin. We had to use the AC every night to be comfortable. And the build quality was mid-par, at best. But, they aren't very expensive. I liked the earlier suggestion to charter one or two different trawlers before making up your mind.
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Old 06-05-2013, 07:48 PM   #29
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The HE40 was on our list to look at as there was one in Pensacola and we were going to be helping our daughter move from the Orlando area up to P-cola. Unfortunately the move dates changes and we never got up there to look, and after the number of no-go viewings in this area we were not wanting to drive 8 hours just to look. There is another one that is somewhere in FL that will soon be transiting back home to Ontario, and we may end up having some of friends in that area go look for us. However, if we end up with a two diesels I'd like to have 120/135's, and from what vie seen the HE40s typically have Perkins 6-354 200hp engines. If I may ask, what do you have for power?
Cobber, was the one you were going to look at named the "peregrine"? If so I have been on that boat when looking for mine. It is a decent boat. If you pm me I can give you more info.

I have the twin 135hp Perkins 6.354 N/A 's. they are good power, economical and easy to work on.

The room on the sun deck is amazing and the 40 foot length is comfortable.

Heritage East are good quality.
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I have a friend with a single 120 Lehman that he runs at 2,400 rpm at 3 gph. We have twin Hino 150 hp (no, it's not a Bayliner) that we run at 1,300 rpm and get the same fuel burn. So consider twins at least. It is nice to have the extra cabin space for your guests but be realistic about this. If you will travel 80% of your time by your self then buy the boat for you. Your guests will be happy just to be on board.
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I appreciate that indeed we may be putting an inordinate amount of emphasis on the possibility of prop damage. After 20 years on submarines, especially having conducted under-ice missions, protecting the screw is deeply ingrained, likely to a fault. The Senator 42 that we looked at had two well protected props and had it not been for what we felt was excessive hull blistering (no attempt to revive that discussion either....our decision was based on nothing more that our comfort with the existing condition) we may have made the move.

If we back off on any of our requirements it will likely be the single engine.
OK, bubblehead, come back to the world of fresh air and fresh vegetables...

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Old 06-05-2013, 09:19 PM   #32
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OK, bubblehead, come back to the world of fresh air and fresh vegetables...

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Good advice, thanks shipmate! When I get home I will try to remind to send you photos of a submarine. As a destroyer sailor, I'm sure you never detected nor saw one :-)
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Old 06-06-2013, 12:17 AM   #33
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May I recommend... Twin screw / Sundeck - What Fun!!
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Definitely a good suggestion and we will start considering cockpits. Most Sundeck models we've viewed seem to have canvas, or at least the ability to enclose with canvas/screen. Because we expect to spend more than a few nights at anchor in the buggy south we liked the idea of being able to screen the Sundeck area.
Our PO effectively screened the cockpit of our Europa design boat, so it can be done on a non sundeck boat. We have clears cutoffs on zips across the entry to the walk around side decks.
You usually get a great sleeping cabin under the sundeck you won`t get otherwise. However, sundeckers can have a variety of levels and internal stairs. Added windage is a consideration too.
Single or twins? Not a deal breaker for the right boat. I prefer twins but there`s a subject done to death, so not going there.
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A lower-profile boat is handier in winds about a dock. ... Do you want a floating apartment or a "boat-boat."

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Surely looks like fun!
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A lower-profile boat is handier in winds about a dock. ... Do you want a floating apartment or a "boat-boat."
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There is a 1984 Present 42 Sundeck in south FL that our broker is suggesting that we consider looking at before we leave, but this late in the trip we are reluctant to spend another full day driving. Are there any owners or previous owners of this model who are willing to share their experiences on quality and sea handling of the Present 42?
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Have to agree with Tom here. Ours is 36, single Lehman 135, forward cabin queen berth offset with a door and fwd head. We love our boat. Is hard with a big dog to hoist him on and off with the sundeck - that's the only downside for us. Not so bad with the foo-foo dog. We've had ours (boat that is) for 3 years and gradually improving her. Beyond 38 feet is hard but not impossible to find a single. Extremely economical. I've seen Europa cabins which have that nice area to socialize in the pic above. Also good. We have teen daughters, so we appreciate the cabin separation. Good luck with your search!
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Cannot agree more on prop protection!!! This is pre-paint, a little ugly, but I completely agree. Your parameters match ours when we were looking. Economics, size, comfort. You're going to be very happy with the boat you ultimately select.
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