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03-24-2018, 11:13 AM
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Senior Member
City: Oriental
Vessel Name: Delphina
Vessel Model: President 43
Join Date: Aug 2014
Posts: 289
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Help !! Can’t stop water
The screw off the impeller plate broke .. I have shut off the seacock but water is still dripping from the impeller housing . What else should I do to stop the water ??
Thanks
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03-24-2018, 11:16 AM
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Senior Member
City: Victoria, BC
Vessel Name: Timeless
Vessel Model: CHB 34
Join Date: Aug 2009
Posts: 262
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Rescue tape might help.
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03-24-2018, 11:30 AM
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Guru
City: SF Bay Area
Vessel Model: Tollycraft 34' Tri Cabin
Join Date: Feb 2011
Posts: 12,569
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In addition to applying tape... Make sure bilge pumps can be kept active as needed. Hopefully you [or a mechanic] can immediately [very soon at latest] easy out screw remains, [drill out if required]. Then tap new thread if needed and replace cover with gasket.
Can you post photos?
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03-24-2018, 11:46 AM
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Enigma
City: Slicker?
Join Date: Oct 2007
Posts: 16,566
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Greetings,
Mr. K. Don't panic! Unless your seacock is leaking (not likely BUT possible), the dripping water is most probably the residual cooling water left in the block above the level of the water pump. It should soon stop. If not, the above advice is applicable.
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03-24-2018, 11:53 AM
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Guru
City: Gig Harbor
Vessel Name: Kinship
Vessel Model: North Pacific 43
Join Date: May 2015
Posts: 9,046
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I agree with RT. Once the seacock is closed the only water coming out would be flowing back from the engine.
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03-24-2018, 12:01 PM
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Guru
Join Date: Oct 2007
Posts: 22,553
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If the water continues , one solution is to pull the hose from the pump (you will need to do that to repair the pump anyway) and stick a dowel or anything into the hose and clamp tight.
When your at the boat store for pump parts , pick up a set of wooden emergency plugs made for emergency leak use.
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03-24-2018, 12:02 PM
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Guru
City: Gibsons, B.C., Canada
Vessel Name: Island Pride
Vessel Model: Palmer 32'
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Posts: 4,414
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3rd RT . THere will be water in the hoses and the heat exchanger.
When you start the repair take the pump off and to home to do the work.
Rig some kind of pan/foil/plastic to direct the remaining water into the bilge. Minimize what splashes around maybe onto wiring.
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03-24-2018, 12:31 PM
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TF Site Team
City: California Delta
Vessel Name: FlyWright
Vessel Model: 1977 Marshall Californian 34 LRC
Join Date: Apr 2008
Posts: 13,728
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Yup...no worries. As mentioned, it's just the water sitting higher than the pump within the engine heat exchanger system hoses and the HX itself. If you pull the pump hose off, it'll all drain into a catch basin that you place under the hose.
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03-24-2018, 12:47 PM
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Guru
City: Gibsons, B.C., Canada
Vessel Name: Island Pride
Vessel Model: Palmer 32'
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Posts: 4,414
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JUst had a thought????? If the screw head broke off and not the screw shank further down it may be possible to get ahold of the remaining shank with a pair of pliers and back it out.
That will require plate removal but not necessarily pump removal depending upon access.
Then replace ALL of the screws and also the gasket.
But if the pump has not been re/re for a few years then maybe time to do that.
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03-24-2018, 01:09 PM
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Guru
City: Carefree, Arizona
Vessel Name: sunchaser V
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Kev
My 2 centavos worth -
Through hulls and raw water pumps can be a boater's nemesis.
Some consider RW pumps as ripe for a total rebuild or throw away once beyond 3,000 hours or 15 to 20 years. How old is yours?
It is common that barnacles and crap can prevent a through hull from closing all the way. These valves are cheap- take off, clean out or replace maybe at next haul out.
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03-24-2018, 02:20 PM
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Senior Member
City: Oriental
Vessel Name: Delphina
Vessel Model: President 43
Join Date: Aug 2014
Posts: 289
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Got the water to stop .. I put some Rosen dowels in yo stop it ...I have s call into my mechanic . Thanks all
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03-24-2018, 02:25 PM
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Senior Member
City: Oriental
Vessel Name: Delphina
Vessel Model: President 43
Join Date: Aug 2014
Posts: 289
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I was warming up the engine to do a oil change and noticed water pouring from the water pump . I went to by HAND tighten the screws and they just snapped off two of them .. I’m very lucky it happened at the dock and not when we were in our cruise down and up the ICW
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03-24-2018, 02:25 PM
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Senior Member
City: Oriental
Vessel Name: Delphina
Vessel Model: President 43
Join Date: Aug 2014
Posts: 289
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Now how to get go about removing the water pump ?????
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03-24-2018, 02:37 PM
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Guru
City: Queensland
Vessel Model: Milkraft 60 converted timber prawn trawler
Join Date: Jul 2016
Posts: 5,482
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Quote:
Originally Posted by sunchaser
Some consider RW pumps as ripe for a total rebuild or throw away once beyond 3,000 hours or 15 to 20 years. How old is yours?
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We had ours rebuilt 12 mths ago when the pulley started wobbling while on passage.
The firm that did the $700 rebuild tried to tell me they need doing every year
Given the size of the pump they may have thought we were an actual trawler doing 57 hours a week or 3000 a year.
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03-24-2018, 02:46 PM
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Guru
City: hawaii
Vessel Name: #31
Vessel Model: ex-Navy MUB 50 fish/cruise
Join Date: Aug 2013
Posts: 873
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Those look pretty crusty!
Hope that’s not representative of all the mechanical parts on your boat.
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03-24-2018, 03:35 PM
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Enigma
City: Slicker?
Join Date: Oct 2007
Posts: 16,566
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Greetings,
Mr. K. Hand screws? Do you, by any chance, have a Speed-Seal cover plate on your WP?
If so, I second Mr. ka's comment. I hope the rest of your fastenings don't look like that.
As far as removing your WP. Probably the hardest part will be removal of the rubber hoses. The rest is simple wrenching. Watch your knuckles. The pump is heavy. You may need a new gasket as well (WP to block).
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03-24-2018, 04:41 PM
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Guru
City: SF Bay Area
Vessel Model: Tollycraft 34' Tri Cabin
Join Date: Feb 2011
Posts: 12,569
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Looking at what appears to be rusted/corroded [maybe just real dirty?? - but I think not] condition of those busted-off screw heads would tell me to check all over on the engine for other fasteners in similar "need-replacement" condition.
How old are those screws?
Best luck!
Art
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03-24-2018, 04:48 PM
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Guru
City: East Coast
Vessel Name: M/V Maerin (Sold)
Vessel Model: Solo 4303
Join Date: Jun 2013
Posts: 886
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Do you have a connection to the shaft log? Like a 3/8" hose from a small port on the pump that feeds the shaft log or a dripless seal. There's a connection that's real easy to overlook. Either put a small ball valve inline (NOT BRASS!!!) or probably more reliable, just gently clamp the hose between a smooth jaw vise-grip or a c-clamp on a pair of rounded pieces of wood. Just need to close off the hose to stop the flow without damaging the hose.
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03-24-2018, 05:02 PM
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Guru
City: Sydney
Join Date: Jul 2015
Posts: 1,646
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Quote:
Originally Posted by KEVMAR
I was warming up the engine to do a oil change and noticed water pouring from the water pump . I went to by HAND tighten the screws and they just snapped off two of them .. I’m very lucky it happened at the dock and not when we were in our cruise down and up the ICW
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MY GOD whats the rest of the engine look like ???
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03-24-2018, 05:02 PM
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Senior Member
City: Chesapeake Bay
Vessel Name: Patty Ann
Vessel Model: Mainship 34 MK1 1980
Join Date: Jan 2014
Posts: 410
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Quote:
Originally Posted by RT Firefly
Greetings,
Mr. K. Don't panic! Unless your seacock is leaking (not likely BUT possible), the dripping water is most probably the residual cooling water left in the block above the level of the water pump. It should soon stop. If not, the above advice is applicable.
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