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Old 06-16-2016, 12:18 AM   #101
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Sounds like the polishing was a good move Ricky. Stock up on primary and secondary filters and hit the water. Take a jug of clean diesel to make any filter changes quicker just in case.
You got it Dave. I received my 8 secondaries today & have 10 Primaries on their way. I have 2 jugs a gallon each & plastic coffee cans with lids. Also I have a retired captain lined up to make the trip. Things are coming together. Take care.
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Old 06-16-2016, 12:41 AM   #102
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Have my JD professionally maintained once a year which includes oil change, recommended maintenance and replacement of on-engine filters. I also replace Racor filter when the mood strikes, also about once a year. Engine is operated about 125 hours annually.



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Old 06-16-2016, 08:06 PM   #103
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You got it Dave. I received my 8 secondaries today & have 10 Primaries on their way. I have 2 jugs a gallon each & plastic coffee cans with lids. Also I have a retired captain lined up to make the trip. Things are coming together. Take care.
That is great! Let us know how the trip goes, it should be fun (between changing filters).
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Old 06-17-2016, 11:34 AM   #104
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That is great! Let us know how the trip goes, it should be fun (between changing filters).
Thanks dhays. It just gets more frustrating. I had a retired captain that agreed to make the trip with me in about 10 days from now. He texted this morning saying that now his health won't allow him the trip. I must keep plugging away. Take care & have a great weekend.
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Old 06-17-2016, 11:39 AM   #105
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OK, so you changed the secondary once. Now that the engine has gone down again, what happens when you change the secondary again? Was the replacement secondary blocked? That could confirm bad fuel...

But if the new secondary isn't blocked, that could instead suggest there's something floating around in that one tank, and whatever that something is eventually finds it's way to the mouth of the pick-up tube.

IOW, I suspect it could be one of two conditions, maybe or maybe not both...

I think.

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I'm back home re-grouping outside of Detroit. I just received a bunch of Perkins secondarys & today I expect a bunch of Racor primaries to arrive. I'll know more in when I get back to the boat. Thanks
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Old 06-17-2016, 12:01 PM   #106
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Ricky, I just spoke with spouse and the things we had scheduled over the next couple of weeks have slipped. I could make the trip with you if you like. Just need to figure a way to get back. PM, e-mail or call me if you want to discuss.
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Ricky, I just spoke with spouse and the things we had scheduled over the next couple of weeks have slipped. I could make the trip with you if you like. Just need to figure a way to get back. PM, e-mail or call me if you want to discuss.
Sounds like a good option Ricky. Another pair of hands would be nice and frankly another skipper to lend assistance and moral support would make you feel better.
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Old 06-17-2016, 12:28 PM   #108
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Ricky, I just spoke with spouse and the things we had scheduled over the next couple of weeks have slipped. I could make the trip with you if you like. Just need to figure a way to get back. PM, e-mail or call me if you want to discuss.
I pm'ed you.
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Old 06-29-2016, 08:36 PM   #109
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Boat is finally home.

Got boat home last Thursday. Thanks to semi-planing with me & navigating we finished trip with many filter changes. I'm not sure if all were necessary because of how clean some looked. I agree with others that there may be some kind of "floater" in the tank. Too many times the engine would slow down & quit in about 2 seconds. If you let it sit a minute & prime lift pump it would start up & maybe go for hours. Must get into Stbd tank for sure. I inquired on Samsmarine.com & have heard from bottle caps to other things giving the same symptoms. Thanks to everyone that tried to supply ideas & especially semi-planing for making the trip possible!
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Glad to hear you got her home. It definitely sounds like you got something floating around in that tank. Imo i would get some clear plastic barrels and pump the tank down. With any luck you will pick it up while pumping the tank out. You would be surprised how many blue plastic caps i have found wedged in oil cooler tubes and fuel lines.
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Glad to hear you got her home. It definitely sounds like you got something floating around in that tank. Imo i would get some clear plastic barrels and pump the tank down. With any luck you will pick it up while pumping the tank out. You would be surprised how many blue plastic caps i have found wedged in oil cooler tubes and fuel lines.
The blue caps surprise me. I will do whatever it takes to be sure tanks are happy tanks. Thanks for post. Have great weekend.
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Don't forget that the Racor 500s are likely too small a unit for your engines. I find 500s are popular on little gensets.

If you consider an upgrade read up on boatdiesel about 3 stage filtering.
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Don't forget that the Racor 500s are likely too small a unit for your engines. I find 500s are popular on little gensets.

If you consider an upgrade read up on boatdiesel about 3 stage filtering.
Thank you sunchaser. I've been thinking that for a while. The crazy thing is at West Marine they want about $15-16.00 for the 500 series element. I saw the Racor 1000 series elements next to those for only $19.95. The 1000 series looks like they have 4 time the area for $4.00 more.
I bought my elements online at about 1/2 price of West Marine. Do you think the 1000 series with the tell-tale gauge would be a good choice? Thanks
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Old 07-02-2016, 01:58 PM   #115
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Glad to hear you got her home. It definitely sounds like you got something floating around in that tank. Imo i would get some clear plastic barrels and pump the tank down. With any luck you will pick it up while pumping the tank out. You would be surprised how many blue plastic caps i have found wedged in oil cooler tubes and fuel lines.
I was thinking exactly that. Both 150 gal tanks are 3/4 full so that's over 100 gals to pump somewhere. The good things is it's all fresh fuel. I don't know what to come up with to store pumped fuel in. Thanks, Happy 4th of July.
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Thank you sunchaser. I've been thinking that for a while. The crazy thing is at West Marine they want about $15-16.00 for the 500 series element. I saw the Racor 1000 series elements next to those for only $19.95. The 1000 series looks like they have 4 time the area for $4.00 more.
I bought my elements online at about 1/2 price of West Marine. Do you think the 1000 series with the tell-tale gauge would be a good choice? Thanks
1000s have 10 times or more the surface of the 500s. The 500s are rated to flow around 60/hr as I recall. But the have a relatively small surface area.

Look at the 900s.
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I was thinking exactly that. Both 150 gal tanks are 3/4 full so that's over 100 gals to pump somewhere. The good things is it's all fresh fuel. I don't know what to come up with to store pumped fuel in. Thanks, Happy 4th of July.
Plastic barrels work good. Check Craigslist. You can find 250 gal plastic totes but they are more of a pain to move alone.
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As Baker discovered "priming" and "removing/ bleeding air" are two different things. It is much easier using an electric priming pump rather than manual to bleed the air, but I don't think any diesel engine likes air on the fuel side.
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1000s have 10 times or more the surface of the 500s. The 500s are rated to flow around 60/hr as I recall. But the have a relatively small surface area.

Look at the 900s.
God news! My engine has a maximum consumption of four gph.
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God news! My engine has a maximum consumption of four gph.
4 gals per hour is great.
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