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Old 06-09-2016, 08:57 AM   #21
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I'm going change out secondary in port engine today. We only have 1 & that had most oroblem.
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Old 06-09-2016, 09:02 AM   #22
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I just got boat 2 days ago. The marina maintained all mechanical work. Im told it was all up to date. Who knows.
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Old 06-09-2016, 09:05 AM   #23
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I cant locate these Perkins Sabre fuel filters Perkins Powerpart 35412 anywhere. There is 1 new on boat in box. Can't change other one.
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Old 06-09-2016, 09:12 AM   #24
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The filters look like they are a bit lower than Raycor but when I drain bowl in can fuel stops flowing when Racor empty.
Above the Racor I found copper tubing with a shut off valve that looks like it separates the incoming fuel from Port & Stbd tank. It is closed meaning port tank, port engine etc.
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To answer another question there is no valve after Racor to engine. I thought that it would. There is valve way before Racor on input side.
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Old 06-09-2016, 09:20 AM   #26
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I cant locate these Perkins Sabre fuel filters Perkins Powerpart 35412 anywhere. There is 1 new on boat in box. Can't change other one.
Try Trans Atlantic Diesel or a Massey Ferguson farm equipment dealer.
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Old 06-09-2016, 09:31 AM   #27
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I had Michigan Cat come out to Grand Haven, MI & he looked at old Racor that I just pulled, both of them, & he said they looked good. We took Michigan Cat guy for test run for 15 minuts & fine as wine. Brought him back, topped of fuel & took off. Then after about 45 mins of running the port engine started slowing down & stopped. Reatarted & run it slow to Muskegon. Pulled Racor primaries to look at & they were perfectly new looking. Can't seem to find any diesel mechanic to look at soon.
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Found this via Google: See the Caterpillar equivalent at bottom.



FST-32178 FILTER-Fuel(Collar Lock)-5 Micron


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Also found Wix 33546, this will be available at NAPA and Carquest autoparts stores.

May also have a restriction at tank pickup or a weak fuel lift pump.
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Also found Wix 33546, this will be available at NAPA and Carquest autoparts stores.
^^^And, O'Reilly Auto Parts as well.
Found a Wix equivalent to the Baldwin oil filter there.
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I had Michigan Cat come out to Grand Haven, MI & he looked at old Racor that I just pulled, both of them, & he said they looked good. We took Michigan Cat guy for test run for 15 minuts & fine as wine. Brought him back, topped of fuel & took off. Then after about 45 mins of running the port engine started slowing down & stopped. Reatarted & run it slow to Muskegon. Pulled Racor primaries to look at & they were perfectly new looking. Can't seem to find any diesel mechanic to look at soon.

You had one Perkins secondary filter on board. Did you change that onto the port engine before running?

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Old 06-09-2016, 11:50 AM   #32
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hello something i use to do when i drove truck was when changing out fuel filters i would fill the fuel filter holder up with lucas fuel treatment no diesel fuel it is thick cleans out the injectors real good like giving a diesel a tune up this was in a 60 series detroit just my two cents worth
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I had Michigan Cat come out to Grand Haven, MI & he looked at old Racor that I just pulled, both of them, & he said they looked good. We took Michigan Cat guy for test run for 15 minuts & fine as wine. Brought him back, topped of fuel & took off. Then after about 45 mins of running the port engine started slowing down & stopped. Reatarted & run it slow to Muskegon. Pulled Racor primaries to look at & they were perfectly new looking. Can't seem to find any diesel mechanic to look at soon.
The fuel filters may have been a rabbit trail then. However, did you ever change out the secondary, on-engine fuel filters on that port engine?

The symptoms still sound like a fuel issue. If not clogged filters, I am not sure what else. I'd be curious to know if the port engine runs fine when cold.
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Secondaries can and do clog, I think mostly due to long sitting time and if fuel has high moisture content. Not necessarily liquid water, but moisture suspended. Had a few that had verified high restriction, opened up, no liquid water, media looked normal, but a new filter absolutely fixed the issue. So in any fuel starvation issue, good first step is get new elements in. Still got an issue, time to dig in farther.
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Secondaries can and do clog, I think mostly due to long sitting time and if fuel has high moisture content. Not necessarily liquid water, but moisture suspended. Had a few that had verified high restriction, opened up, no liquid water, media looked normal, but a new filter absolutely fixed the issue. So in any fuel starvation issue, good first step is get new elements in. Still got an issue, time to dig in farther.
If I recall Ski, it may have been you that suggested to change out the primary filters first, then change out the secondary filter after running for a bit. The idea being that any crud that escapes during the filter change on the primaries would be caught by the secondary after some actual boat use, then change out the secondary so they are completely clean.
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I have a single engine (Perkins) and two Racor filters plus one on the engine which I am afraid to touch as yet. PO used 30 mic. in both Racors. Would it make sense, when replacing, to install one 30 and one 10 microns or maybe both 10 or 2x30 makes the most sense?
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I have a single engine (Perkins) and two Racor filters plus one on the engine which I am afraid to touch as yet. PO used 30 mic. in both Racors. Would it make sense, when replacing, to install one 30 and one 10 microns or maybe both 10 or 2x30 makes the most sense?
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I'd install a 30 then a 10 if the filter bodies are inline with each other.
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Next time open the fuel fill on the tank and see if that corrects the problem. (clogged vents)
You could also have a rubber fuel line collapsing internally. This happened to me on my maiden delivery voyage several years ago.
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FST-32178 FILTER-Fuel(Collar Lock)-5 Micron


Larger image
< a href="http://www.inlinefilters.co.uk/index.php?main_page=popup_image&pID=14401" target="_blank"><img src="bmz_cache/0/010cf636d32194aad27f912be69c491b.image.203x200.jpg " alt="FST-32178 FILTER-Fuel(Collar Lock)-5 Micron" title=" FST-32178 FILTER-Fuel(Collar Lock)-5 Micron " width="203" height="200" /><br /><span class="imgLink">Larger image</span></a>

ORDER HERE
Price(Ex Vat): £27.55



Quantity to Add:

Part Number FST-32178



PRODUCT DESCRIPTION: SPECIFICATIONS:
FILTER-Fuel(Collar Lock)-5 Micron. Fuel/Water Separator, FM 100, Secondary, 5 Micron, 4.3in, Marine.

DIMENSIONS:
Height: 110mm
OD/Width Max: 83mm
OD/Width Min: 69mm
ID/Depth Max: 16mm

EQUIVALENTS:
Caterpillar 2053043, 2053043SABRE, In-Line Filters FST32178, FST-32178, Mann WK8116, Mercury Mercruiser 35807256, Perkins 35412, 35412SABRE, 35413, Quicksilver 035807256, Stanadyne 32065, 32178, 35242, 35244, VME 35312018F
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I have a single engine (Perkins) and two Racor filters plus one on the engine which I am afraid to touch as yet. PO used 30 mic. in both Racors. Would it make sense, when replacing, to install one 30 and one 10 microns or maybe both 10 or 2x30 makes the most sense?
I am a new owner and trying to learn.
Try and find the manual for your engine and see what Perkins recommends for your primary fuel filters. Most likely your Racors are not in series but are setup parallel so you can run one or the other, or both simultaneously. Chances are the PO had the right filters in there. I would replace those with the 30 micron filters until you can find a manual.
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