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Old 11-02-2011, 08:35 AM   #1
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So why isn't your DSC hooked up?

I was reading a report in a boat mag last night and the jest was that the USCG and others couldn't figure why only 10% of boaters have it hooked up.

Mine is good to go.*A few others I have talked to just don't have a radio that has DSC and don't want to buy a new one.

So two things. Do you have a DSC radio.

Is it hooked into your GPS.

Why or Why not.

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Old 11-02-2011, 09:12 AM   #2
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RE: So why isn't your DSC hooked up?

DSC radio - yes
Hooked into GPS - no - haven't got around to it. Its one of those projects that looks like it could easily turn into an ordeal so I have avoided dealing with it.
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Old 11-02-2011, 09:15 AM   #3
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So why isn't your DSC hooked up?

It is not a big deal. Usually just 2 wires NEMA 0183.

If you look in da book that came with the radio and GPS.**It is simple.

Then you get your MMSI number and you are good to go.

It can and will save life's

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Old 11-02-2011, 09:19 AM   #4
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So why isn't your DSC hooked up?

I have one and it's hooked up. I sure wish I could test it because I don't know if it works or not.

Why? Just because it was there. It has that as a benefit, so why not capitalize on it? If I have an emergency, pushing a single button sure wouldn't take away much time from tending to said emergency. Seems almost too simple to ignore.

Is this the Boating World article I skimmed over yesterday?

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**EDIT** I used a trailer hitch wire harness to hook the 0183 to the GPS. Works great and basically weatherproof.


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Old 11-02-2011, 09:26 AM   #5
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RE: So why isn't your DSC hooked up?

Have one and it is hooked up to GPS, but I haven't programmed in DSC identifiers. *Mine is an Icom and the DSC system makes the radio almost not worth using. *About once a month, the DSC alarm goes off, 99% of the time because some child pressed it or some genius wondered what "this button does". *It is supposed to turn itself off if you don't acknowledge it, but it doesn't as we found out in Victoria when we forgot to de-power the VHF and the DSC alarm went off for the 2 hours we were gone. *The neighbors called the police, since the alarm is about 100 db and there is no volume control. *Because of the volume, when it goes off if you're in the pilot house, it is the equivalent sensation to someone sneaking up behind you with an air horn. *So we generally keep the Icom turned off and a handheld non DSC turned on when cruising just to avoid the drama.

I'm sure it's just the Icom, and their tech dept. expects me to send it to them so they can replicate the issue rather than take my word for it, and I haven't bothered with that yet. *I suppose I am missing the whole point, but this system seems like another attempt to regulate safety that results in folks like me keeping the safety device turned off because it is such a nuisance.
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Old 11-02-2011, 09:52 AM   #6
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RE: So why isn't your DSC hooked up?

DSC is one of many choices. If I truly want to be found quickly I will activate my EPIRB - 30 year old technology that is recognized by virtually all satellites whether US, Russian, Chinese etc. Many years ago 5 guys that worked for me*were rescued from a downed plane with the signal*received by a Russian satellite, relayed to Canada where the mishap occurred and*occupants in turn picked up by a USCG helicopter sent in from Juneau.

On too many radios DSC is an advertising gimmick.
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Old 11-02-2011, 10:03 AM   #7
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RE: So why isn't your DSC hooked up?

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Have one and it is hooked up to GPS, but I haven't programmed in DSC identifiers. *Mine is an Icom and the DSC system makes the radio almost not worth using. *About once a month, the DSC alarm goes off, 99% of the time because some child pressed it or some genius wondered what "this button does". *It is supposed to turn itself off if you don't acknowledge it, but it doesn't as we found out in Victoria when we forgot to de-power the VHF and the DSC alarm went off for the 2 hours we were gone. *The neighbors called the police, since the alarm is about 100 db and there is no volume control. *Because of the volume, when it goes off if you're in the pilot house, it is the equivalent sensation to someone sneaking up behind you with an air horn. *So we generally keep the Icom turned off and a handheld non DSC turned on when cruising just to avoid the drama.

I'm sure it's just the Icom, and their tech dept. expects me to send it to them so they can replicate the issue rather than take my word for it, and I haven't bothered with that yet. *I suppose I am missing the whole point, but this system seems like another attempt to regulate safety that results in folks like me keeping the safety device turned off because it is such a nuisance.
*I would think that after you were aware of the alarm and were in no position to render aid you could just turn off your radio untill the emergency was over.

*Doesn't switching to another chanel silence the alarm?

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Old 11-02-2011, 10:16 AM   #8
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RE: So why isn't your DSC hooked up?

DSC is hooked up to one our VHF radios and the*HF.* I would activate both if needed but like Tom, I would rely on the EPIRB in a real emergency.*

Does anyone know of someone who was*rescued*via*DSC?
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Old 11-02-2011, 10:20 AM   #9
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RE: So why isn't your DSC hooked up?

Yes, we have one (ICOM). Yes, its hooked up. Yes, I got MMSI number. No, I don't know if it works or not.
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Old 11-02-2011, 10:28 AM   #10
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RE: So why isn't your DSC hooked up?

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Yes, we have one (ICOM). Yes, its hooked up. Yes, I got MMSI number. No, I don't know if it works or not.
*If you get you boat buddy's MMSI number you can enter it in and give it a try. It is really pretty cool.

You can send a position report. An icon will show up on your GPS screen showing the location of the boat sending the position report.

It is also handy to stop people from clogging up channel 16 with useless broadcasts like. " This is Rubber Duck. Negative contact with Big Boat. Rubber duck clear".

Not necessary no one cares if you made contact or not only you. You could prevent a MayDay from being heard on 16 by useless and needless chatter.

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Old 11-02-2011, 11:21 AM   #11
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RE: So why isn't your DSC hooked up?

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Yes, we have one (ICOM). Yes, its hooked up. Yes, I got MMSI number. No, I don't know if it works or not.
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Old 11-02-2011, 12:37 PM   #12
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So why isn't your DSC hooked up?

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skipperdude wrote:So two things. Do you have a DSC radio.
Is it hooked into your GPS.

Why or Why not.

*
*That's actually three things.

1. Yes, on each boat.

2.* Yes, on each boat.

3.* Because I can't think of a smart reason NOT to have it hooked up.* While we don't anticipate an emergency that would necessitate the use of the "red button," never say never, right?* So it makes sense to send the boat's position out along with the automated emergency signal.* And as skipperdude says, connecting the radio to a GPS (chart plotters in the case of both our boats) is very easy.* Just two wires to connect together.

As to the selective calling feature of DSC, we have MMSI numbers for both boats but we've used this feature only a couple of times on longer cruises in the company of another boat that also had DSC.* And that was because the other boat wanted to use it.* It's easy to program (although you only get two or three shots at entering your MMSI number correctly.* If you mis-key more than that, the radio has to go back to the manufacturer to be reset).*

We have found no real value in it (so far) for our own purposes.* There are only a few--- maybe three--- boats that we ever have reason to communicate with if we and they are out at the same time, and the standard call on 16 and switch to a working channel is no more time consuming that dialing in and making a DSC call.

But the automated position reporting feature is a very smart idea, I think.* We have an older Icom radio on the flying bridge of the GB that we bought new before DSC became a feature.* So that radio is obviously not connected to a GPS.* But since we never drive the boat from the flying bridge we don't view it to be worthwhile to change that radio simply to acquire DSC capability up there.

Both our DSC radios are Icoms (different models, however) and in the three or four years we've had them we've very rarely had the alarm go off for an incoming emergency transmission.* Also, the radios emit a sort of warning tone that an emergency transmission is incoming so we're able to reach over and hit the clear key if we don't want to be subjected to the alarm itself, which is very loud.* But so far when we've been out we've heard these signals maybe a two or three times a year at most.





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Old 11-02-2011, 01:14 PM   #13
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Is it hooked into your GPS.

Why or Why not.

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*That's actually three things.

You're killing me.

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Old 11-02-2011, 03:19 PM   #14
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RE: So why isn't your DSC hooked up?

I have a DSC radio. I have an MSSI number. It is not hooked up to my GPS and I have not entered my number into the radio.

Why Not? I don't know. No way to test it really for the emergency part that is. CG says that is a no-no. So how would I know it works for emergency?
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Old 11-02-2011, 04:40 PM   #15
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RE: So why isn't your DSC hooked up?

To not do it is a bit foolish in my way of thinking. Hook it to the GPS and program the MMSI...it's not hard...there's plenty of assistance out there online or from helpful boaters or your frindly local assistance tower...I've helped several do it.

Being able to tell a passenger to hit the red button for 5 seconds while you fight the fire, plug the whole, get the engine started is worth it's weight in gold...

Anyone worried about it not working only has to listen to the thousand of false alarms by idiots to know it will probably work and work right for you if you hook up and MMSI it.
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Have one and it is hooked up to GPS, but I haven't programmed in DSC identifiers. *Mine is an Icom and the DSC system makes the radio almost not worth using. *About once a month, the DSC alarm goes off, 99% of the time because some child pressed it or some genius wondered what "this button does". *It is supposed to turn itself off if you don't acknowledge it, but it doesn't as we found out in Victoria when we forgot to de-power the VHF and the DSC alarm went off for the 2 hours we were gone. *The neighbors called the police, since the alarm is about 100 db and there is no volume control. *Because of the volume, when it goes off if you're in the pilot house, it is the equivalent sensation to someone sneaking up behind you with an air horn. *So we generally keep the Icom turned off and a handheld non DSC turned on when cruising just to avoid the drama.

I'm sure it's just the Icom, and their tech dept. expects me to send it to them so they can replicate the issue rather than take my word for it, and I haven't bothered with that yet. *I suppose I am missing the whole point, but this system seems like another attempt to regulate safety that results in folks like me keeping the safety device turned off because it is such a nuisance.
*I would think that after you were aware of the alarm and were in no position to render aid you could just turn off your radio untill the emergency was over.

*Doesn't switching to another chanel silence the alarm?

SD

*Yes, you can switch the VHF, which I do after wiping the wine I snorted out my nose off the book I'm reading after it goes off at 110 db. *
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Old 11-02-2011, 06:12 PM   #17
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RE: So why isn't your DSC hooked up?

On the two Icoms we have that have DSC (both of them relatively new radios) you don't even have to switch channels to silence the alarm. You just push the "clear" button.
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RE: So why isn't your DSC hooked up?

Both VHF's are DSC, and connected to the GPS's and have an MMSI. I figure it can help when there is a problem....and we also carry an EPIRB.
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RE: So why isn't your DSC hooked up?

yes and yes, it was easy to do when we set up the new VHF after we installed it.* got the MMSI number before we installed the VHF.
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Yes and yes, with an international MMSI # (not the boat/us one). Also GPIRB.
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