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05-24-2016, 10:29 AM
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City: Sarasota/Ft. Lauderdale
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So thick is your hull?
This is the hull thickness near the keel and engine beds on the free Chris Craft 501 I picked up a few weeks ago. Solid glass. The laminate thickness changes from area to area on the hull of course. But very reassuring to see that kind of laminate schedule used.
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05-24-2016, 11:15 AM
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Master and Commander
City: Vallejo CA
Vessel Name: Carquinez Coot
Vessel Model: penultimate Seahorse Marine Coot hull #6
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5 mm thinnest, 12 mm thickest
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05-24-2016, 11:39 AM
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City: Seattle, WA
Vessel Name: Pau Hana
Vessel Model: 1989 PT52 Overseas Yachtfisher
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1.75" at the keel, 1" bulkheads. No core material- solid glass.
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05-24-2016, 11:56 AM
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Guru
City: Cape Cod
Vessel Name: Slip Aweigh
Vessel Model: Prairie 29
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Mine is stated in factory specs as being 1" hand laid. But replacing a transducer showed 7/8". Close enough.
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05-24-2016, 12:00 PM
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Guru
City: Bethlehem, PA
Vessel Name: Lady Kay V
Vessel Model: 1978 Hatteras 53MY
Join Date: Oct 2015
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The early fiberglass boats were built to wood dimensions..... Until they figured out that the stuff was stronger and they could save money by using less of it. A side benefit was, of course, weight reduction which brought increased efficiency.
Out of curiosity....... what are you installing that needs a hole that big?
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05-24-2016, 01:38 PM
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Technical Guru
City: Wilmington, NC
Vessel Name: Louisa
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I worked on an old FG boat from a builder just starting to use FG, built back in the 70's. That hull was at least 1.5" thick. Funny thing was the hole saw plug broke in two when cleared out of the hull. There was a thick layer of sawdust between the layers!!!
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05-24-2016, 11:15 PM
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Guru
City: Sarasota/Ft. Lauderdale
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Quote:
Originally Posted by oscar
Out of curiosity....... what are you installing that needs a hole that big?
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I'm installing a 1kw transducer. Over kill for what the boat is going to be used for but it's what came with the new/used Raymarine electronics package we found on Craig's list.
And yes you can build with less glass and get a strong hull. But on a gut level I still get a warm fuzzy feeling when I see all that glass.
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05-25-2016, 12:35 AM
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City: SF Bay Area
Vessel Model: Tollycraft 34' Tri Cabin
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Tollycraft we have tapers from approx 1.5" thick in its bow bottom section down to 3/4 " thick on sides toward transom.
One main reason there are sooooo many classic FRP boats still in good condition, besides owners' care, is the rugged way they were constructed. IMO... in 2016 there are several old 60 to 100 year old wood boats still on the water, but, during the next 100 + + years there will be Many Many old FRPs still on the water.
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05-25-2016, 04:48 AM
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City: Green Cove Springs, Florida
Join Date: Feb 2012
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A fisherman who you used to go by the moniker Popeye in Key West way back had a Munroe 36 or 42 made to replace his wood boat. It was laid up heavy and had frames glassed into too. I saw it running towards Stock Island one day just off the beach south of Key West in a short steep chop. It wasn't bouncing at all. It was so heavy it was literally punching through the waves. Each time it hit one it looked like an explosion on the water during which the boat would disappear from view for a brief moment.
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05-25-2016, 05:03 AM
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Guru
City: Fort Myers, FL... Summers in the Great Lakes
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Vessel Model: Cherubini Independence 45
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Quote:
Originally Posted by Art
Tollycraft we have tapers from approx 1.5" thick in its bow bottom section down to 3/4 " thick on sides toward transom.
One main reason there are sooooo many classic FRP boats still in good condition, besides owners' care, is the rugged way they were constructed. IMO... in 2016 there are several old 60 to 100 year old wood boats still on the water, but, during the next 100 + + years there will be Many Many old FRPs still on the water.
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Maybe.
Many of the FG hulls were over built super strong, but the remainder of the boat wasn't. If you look at the demise of so many FG boats, it's not hull failure but the cost of rebuilding or replacing decks, cabin structure, wiring, plumbing, ect.........unless you can do it yourself (no labor cost).
There are yards full of abandoned boats that aren't economically feasible to rebuild relative to what they are worth. Seems there is a thread every few weeks about a nightmare survey that makes a boat economically worthless with a perfectly good hull.
Ted
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05-25-2016, 07:16 AM
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Guru
City: SF Bay Area
Vessel Model: Tollycraft 34' Tri Cabin
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Quote:
Originally Posted by O C Diver
Maybe.
Many of the FG hulls were over built super strong, but the remainder of the boat wasn't. If you look at the demise of so many FG boats, it's not hull failure but the cost of rebuilding or replacing decks, cabin structure, wiring, plumbing, ect.........unless you can do it yourself (no labor cost).
There are yards full of abandoned boats that aren't economically feasible to rebuild relative to what they are worth. Seems there is a thread every few weeks about a nightmare survey that makes a boat economically worthless with a perfectly good hull.
Ted
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True Ted - True! However... the future antiques of well built FRPs (i.e. hull and superstructure) that are taken care of should outnumber the current antiques of well built woodies still floating today.
During the 60's, 70's, 80's, 90's there was a plethora of rot filled woodies being dismantled. Still today there are many ol' woodies bighting the dust. And, by sheer numbers of mid 1960's through to today ongoing FRP builds I believe FRP's by far out number the builds of woodies from back in the early to mid 20th Century.
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