Reply
 
Thread Tools Display Modes
 
Old 06-07-2011, 08:17 PM   #1
Guru
 
Tom.B's Avatar
 
City: Cary, NC
Country: USA
Vessel Name: Skinny Dippin'
Vessel Model: Navigator 4200 Classic
Join Date: Jul 2009
Posts: 5,152
Skipper or Captian?

Ya' know... I get called "Captain" a lot on the radio and on the dock. Having never been in the military, never earned the rank, and only being a boater at this level for 300-ish hours and about two years... I don't know how comfortable I am being called "Captain". I'm wondering what the difference the use of "Skipper" would be and should I start correcting people about it?
__________________
Advertisement

Tom.B is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 06-07-2011, 08:46 PM   #2
Member
 
Join Date: May 2011
Posts: 8
RE: Skipper or Captian?

Hi Gonzo

Maybe these people calling you captain have observed your boat handling skills and believe you warrant the title, so I would just accept it as a compliment and get on with life, to be called a captain is far better than many of the other things I have been called in my life.
__________________

GregJ is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 06-07-2011, 09:19 PM   #3
Senior Member
 
Jay N's Avatar
 
City: Edmonds, WA
Country: USA
Vessel Name: WESTERLY
Vessel Model: 1974 Pacific Trawler 37
Join Date: Oct 2007
Posts: 387
RE: Skipper or Captian?

If you were in a floating bathtub, you could be a captain.* Or skipper.

Too many other things to worry about.* Go boating.* Or trawlering.* Or passagemaking, Or cruising.* Or ????
Jay N is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 06-07-2011, 09:20 PM   #4
Guru
 
rochepoint's Avatar
 
City: Sidney BC
Country: Canada
Vessel Name: Rochepoint
Vessel Model: 1985 Cheer Men PT38 Sedan
Join Date: Apr 2009
Posts: 1,191
RE: Skipper or Captian?

My wife is the Admiral and she gave me permission to be Captain.
I think they are respecting the operator of the vessel.
rochepoint is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 06-07-2011, 09:40 PM   #5
Grand Vizier
 
Delfin's Avatar
 
Join Date: Jan 2010
Posts: 2,487
RE: Skipper or Captian?

While I prefer "Sublime Protector of the Western Empire" for a title, I settle for Skipper. No one ever calls me Captain, *so it must be your boating skills that engender the respect. You're running the boat, so you're the Captain. *Go with the flow.
Delfin is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 06-07-2011, 11:03 PM   #6
Hospitality Officer
 
Andy G's Avatar
 
City: Pittwater
Country: Australia
Vessel Name: Sarawana
Vessel Model: IG 36 Quad Cabin
Join Date: Sep 2010
Posts: 1,557
RE: Skipper or Captian?

"I get called "Captain" a lot on the radio and on the dock. Having never been in the military, never earned the rank, and only being a boater at this level for 300-ish hours and about two years... I don't know how comfortable I am being called "Captain".

Well, if you get capt'n after only two years ,just think what they will call you in five years time. You may even get to be the new "Sublime Protector of the Western Empire". Of course you may have to scuttle the existing incumbent!
Andy G is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 06-08-2011, 03:19 AM   #7
Senior Member
 
AllanY's Avatar
 
City: Tin Can Bay, Queensland, Australia
Country: Australia
Vessel Model: Cheoy Lee, Trawler
Join Date: Apr 2010
Posts: 171
RE: Skipper or Captian?

The term Captain is usually reserved for those that hold a commercial Masters certificate whereas Skipper is usually reserved for amateur boaties

Allan
AllanY is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 06-08-2011, 03:39 AM   #8
FF
Guru
 
FF's Avatar
 
Join Date: Oct 2007
Posts: 16,515
RE: Skipper or Captian?

Agree , Captain is for pro mariners that have earned their living with their skills ,experience and expertise.

My USCG 100 Ton ticket doesn't even come close.
FF is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 06-08-2011, 04:38 AM   #9
Guru
 
Tom.B's Avatar
 
City: Cary, NC
Country: USA
Vessel Name: Skinny Dippin'
Vessel Model: Navigator 4200 Classic
Join Date: Jul 2009
Posts: 5,152
RE: Skipper or Captian?

Exactly... And yet, the term is thrown around pretty generally. That's part of my quandary.
Tom.B is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 06-08-2011, 04:42 AM   #10
Senior Member
 
knotheadcharters's Avatar
 
City: Jacksonville, FL
Vessel Name: Amar la Vida
Vessel Model: 1989 Carver Californian 48' MY
Join Date: Jan 2011
Posts: 327
Skipper or Captian?

I'll throw my 2 cents in here. In NAVY parlence, a Captain is the Commanding Officer of a ship(most captains are not the rank of Captain O-6, usually on cruisers and above they are, but frigates and below are usually a Commander, O-5) but are still called "Captain", whereas a Skipper is the Commanding Officer of an Aviation Squadron. You don't want to mix the two. NEVER call a Boat Captain Skipper, they are slightly uptight. Squadron CO's not so much!

As far a pleasure boating, who cares what they call you as long as they call in time for Happy Hour


-- Edited by knotheadcharters on Wednesday 8th of June 2011 04:43:49 AM
knotheadcharters is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 06-08-2011, 05:20 AM   #11
TF Site Team
 
Peter B's Avatar
 
City: Brisbane
Country: Australia
Vessel Name: Lotus
Vessel Model: Clipper (CHB) 34 Sedan/Europa style
Join Date: Jun 2008
Posts: 6,669
Send a message via Skype™ to Peter B
RE: Skipper or Captian?

Exactly. Either term is applicable because they are somewhat honorary titles in our sphere of boating, but captain in particular, if used in this context, is usually used 'tongue-in-cheek' I suspect. For example, when I wear one of my peaked caps with 'Captain' across the front. Point is not to take it too seriously. At the same time as skipper, you are ultimately responsible for the whole boat and crew's safety, so there is a serious side.
Peter B is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 06-08-2011, 06:57 AM   #12
Guru
 
Tom.B's Avatar
 
City: Cary, NC
Country: USA
Vessel Name: Skinny Dippin'
Vessel Model: Navigator 4200 Classic
Join Date: Jul 2009
Posts: 5,152
Skipper or Captian?

I guess that with all things considered, I'm even uncomfortable being called, "Sir". And along the same lines, I tried to avoid being called an audio "engineer" when I was running shows because I never got an engineering degree. I was a "soundman" or "soundperson" (or A1 or A2). I suppose I am trying, in vain apparently, to have a little more respect for people that actually EARN the right to be called Captain. It just gives me the heebie-jeebies.


-- Edited by GonzoF1 on Wednesday 8th of June 2011 06:58:02 AM
Tom.B is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 06-08-2011, 08:03 AM   #13
Guru
 
hollywood8118's Avatar
 
City: Port Townsend Washington
Country: USA
Vessel Name: " OTTER "
Vessel Model: Ocean Alexander Europa 40
Join Date: Nov 2009
Posts: 1,482
RE: Skipper or Captian?

Take your pick!

As long as it's not a expletive... who cares!

HOLLYWOOD
Attached Images
  
hollywood8118 is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 06-08-2011, 08:08 AM   #14
JD
Guru
 
JD's Avatar
 
City: New Bern NC
Country: USA
Vessel Name: Stella Di Mare
Vessel Model: Mainship 34t
Join Date: Apr 2010
Posts: 1,702
RE: Skipper or Captian?

Quote:
GonzoF1 wrote:
I guess that with all things considered, I'm even uncomfortable being called, "Sir". And along the same lines, I tried to avoid being called an audio "engineer" when I was running shows because I never got an engineering degree. I was a "soundman" or "soundperson" (or A1 or A2). I suppose I am trying, in vain apparently, to have a little more respect for people that actually EARN the right to be called Captain. It just gives me the heebie-jeebies.



-- Edited by GonzoF1 on Wednesday 8th of June 2011 06:58:02 AM
*I think the term Captain in general boating*is used mostly because most of the time neither person knows the other person given name so to be polite they call you Captain.* As you are the person in charge of the vessel at that time.* Sounds better than some other names that could be, and at times deservedly, used.

"Hey Dumb A**"" sounds so crude.* It may be true but crude none the less.

.
JD is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 06-08-2011, 08:32 AM   #15
Guru
 
Nomad Willy's Avatar
 
City: Concrete Washington State
Country: USA
Vessel Name: Willy
Vessel Model: Willard Nomad 30'
Join Date: Oct 2007
Posts: 13,707
Skipper or Captian?

Military considerations have nothing to do w it.

Captain refers to an individual that is a professional hired hand and commands the vessel for the owners.

Skipper refers to an operator of a boat whereas he (or she) commands the vessel but also owns it.

If a Captain went below decks, got into a poker game w the vessel's owner and won the vessel he would instant become the Skipper. Some on this forum perform as Captains while the vast majority are Skippers. And while Captian's command their own vessel they are Skippers.


-- Edited by nomadwilly on Wednesday 8th of June 2011 08:34:46 AM
Nomad Willy is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 06-08-2011, 08:44 AM   #16
Master and Commander
 
markpierce's Avatar
 
City: Vallejo CA
Country: USA
Vessel Name: Carquinez Coot
Vessel Model: 2011 Seahorse Marine Coot hull #6
Join Date: Sep 2010
Posts: 10,254
RE: Skipper or Captian?

Webster's Seventh New Collegiate Dictionary says:
<ul>[*]A skipper is (1) the master of a ship, especially the master of a fishing, small trading, or pleasure boat or (2) the captain or first pilot of an airplane.[*]A captain is (1) the commander of a body of troops or of a military establishment, or a commander under a sovereign or general, or an officer in charge of a ship, a commissioned officer in the navy ranking above a commander and below a commodore or a rear admiral, or*a commissioned officer in the army, air force, or marine corps ranking above a first lieutenant and below a major, or a distinguished military leader, or a leader of a side or team, or (2) a dominant figure.[/list]So, it would seem more appropriate that most of us*should be called a*"skipper" except for those who have delusions of grandeur who would prefer to be called "captain".
markpierce is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 06-08-2011, 10:04 AM   #17
Guru
 
skipperdude's Avatar
 
City: Whittier AK
Country: USA
Vessel Name: Apache II
Vessel Model: 1974 Donald Jones
Join Date: Oct 2007
Posts: 3,147
Skipper or Captian?

Friends*started calling me the Skipper dude years ago when most first got into boating.

Mostly because I have*always had a boat of one form or another. I knew more about the boating thing than others.

The handle kind of stuck.

Where I come from It is also used as a term of respect.

If you have your captian's license you can be called cap't.

On the radio or ashore. I call any boat owner Skipper or Skip for short

SD

*

*



*


-- Edited by skipperdude on Wednesday 8th of June 2011 10:08:01 AM
skipperdude is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 06-08-2011, 10:44 AM   #18
Guru
 
jleonard's Avatar
 
Join Date: Jun 2008
Posts: 2,735
RE: Skipper or Captian?

Quote:


*I think the term Captain in general boating*is used mostly because most of the time neither person knows the other person given name so to be polite they call you Captain.* As you are the person in charge of the vessel at that time.* Sounds better than some other names that could be, and at times deservedly, used.
"Hey Dumb A**"" sounds so crude.* It may be true but crude none the less.

.

*I agree. The two titles have nothing to do with the textbook definition other than it may point out to the person running the boat that he/she is IN CHARGE of the vessel. I think*calling someone "captain" is *better than saying "you're the boss" when asking for a decision as in "hey Captain, which line do you want secured first?" etc.

I also freely use the term "Hey A$$ hole"espeically when "asking" someone to control their wake. In that situation they don't have my respect.

*
jleonard is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 06-08-2011, 09:58 PM   #19
Guru
 
Forkliftt's Avatar
 
City: Biloxi Mississippi
Country: USA
Vessel Name: Patricia Louise II
Vessel Model: 1983 42' Present Sundeck
Join Date: Oct 2007
Posts: 2,433
RE: Skipper or Captian?

I have friends with boats and for us- usually Cap'n is the term we use. It might be Cap'n Kirk, Cap'n Dave, etc.
Captain is very proper and deserving of someone who has earned the title. Cap'n- to me- is a laid back way to address others with a boat.
Forkliftt is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 06-09-2011, 04:16 AM   #20
Guru
 
Tom.B's Avatar
 
City: Cary, NC
Country: USA
Vessel Name: Skinny Dippin'
Vessel Model: Navigator 4200 Classic
Join Date: Jul 2009
Posts: 5,152
RE: Skipper or Captian?

So... There seems to be no consensus. Just my own hangup them. Dratt. ;-)
__________________

Tom.B is offline   Reply With Quote
Reply

Thread Tools
Display Modes

Posting Rules
You may not post new threads
You may not post replies
You may not post attachments
You may not edit your posts

BB code is On
Smilies are On
[IMG] code is On
HTML code is Off
Trackbacks are Off
Pingbacks are Off
Refbacks are Off





All times are GMT -5. The time now is 07:33 AM.


Powered by vBulletin® Version 3.8.8 Beta 4
Copyright ©2000 - 2017, vBulletin Solutions, Inc.
Search Engine Optimization by vBSEO 3.6.0
Copyright 2006 - 2012