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10-19-2018, 07:31 PM
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Senior Member
City: Stony Point, NY
Vessel Name: VARKA
Vessel Model: Helmsman Trawlers 43 PH
Join Date: Aug 2018
Posts: 250
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Ship's Library
Hello TF People's!
We are looking into building a little library on the boat.
We are looking for recommendations of books to add to the library.
I haven't decided if we want to do actual paperback books, or have a dedicated Kindle with the books, as well as PDF's of all of the various boats manuals and components.
I am quite handy, but would like to have some books onboard for those times that we may want to reference something while cruising and the internet isn't always available.
So far over the years, We have accrued these books over the years -
1. Voyaging Under Power, 4th Edition - by Beebe, Robert P., Umstot, Denis
2. The Arts of the Sailor: Knotting, Splicing and Ropework by Smith, Hervey Garrett
3. The Great Loop Experience - From Concept to Completion: A Practical Guide for Planning, Preparing and Executing Your Great Loop Adventure - by Hospodar, George, Hospodar, Patricia
4. The New Get Rid of Boat Odors: A Boat Owner's Guide to Marine Sanitation Systems and Other Sources of Aggravation and Odor by Hall, Peggie
5. Boatowners Mechanical and Electrical Manual 4th Edition - Calder, Nigel, International Marine Publishing
What else would be a good addition?
Thanks in advance!
Seth
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10-19-2018, 07:36 PM
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Enigma
City: Slicker?
Join Date: Oct 2007
Posts: 16,565
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Greetings,
Mr. AS. Good cookbooks. Your favorite cuisine types.
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10-19-2018, 07:36 PM
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Guru
City: Kitimat, North Coast BC
Vessel Name: Badger
Vessel Model: 30' Sundowner Tug
Join Date: Jul 2012
Posts: 5,946
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The complete book of anchoring and mooring, Karl R Hinz.
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"The most interesting path between two points is not a straight line" MurrayM
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10-19-2018, 07:38 PM
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Guru
City: Kitimat, North Coast BC
Vessel Name: Badger
Vessel Model: 30' Sundowner Tug
Join Date: Jul 2012
Posts: 5,946
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Operators manual for your engine.
Service manual for your engine.
Parts catalogue for your engine.
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10-19-2018, 07:49 PM
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Guru
City: Quebec
Vessel Name: Bleuvet
Vessel Model: Custom Built
Join Date: Jan 2016
Posts: 4,375
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Boatowners Illustrated Electrical Hanbook from Charlie Wing
Troubleshootin and repairing diesel engines from Paul Dempsey, one of the most interesting book about diesel I read.
L
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10-19-2018, 08:13 PM
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Guru
City: Boston
Vessel Name: Adelante
Vessel Model: IG 30
Join Date: Nov 2016
Posts: 1,609
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The only things you 'need' onboard are manuals, parts lists, and operating instructions. They can be either downloaded or converted to pdf's and stored on ipad (or on any tablet)
Paper books take up a lot of space and get musty so the fewer the better.
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10-19-2018, 08:32 PM
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Guru
City: North Carolina for now
Join Date: Aug 2011
Posts: 6,348
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In addition to the manuals and the aforementioned Hinz book, our most-consulted tomes other than guide books were: - Nigel Calder's Boat Owners Mechanical and Electrical Manual
- How to Read Water by Tristan Gooley
- The Natural Navigator also by Gooley
- Chapman's Piloting and Seamanship (if you had to own just one)
- "Weather" by an author I don't recall but will find when I get home
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"There's the Right Way, the Wrong Way, and what some guy says he's gotten away with"
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10-19-2018, 08:34 PM
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Guru
City: North Carolina for now
Join Date: Aug 2011
Posts: 6,348
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Quote:
Originally Posted by SoWhat
The only things you 'need' onboard are manuals, parts lists, and operating instructions. They can be either downloaded or converted to pdf's and stored on ipad (or on any tablet)
Paper books take up a lot of space and get musty so the fewer the better.
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Depends on how and where you use the boat and your level of interest. Full time liveaboard and cruiser has different "needs" than weekend warrior.
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"There's the Right Way, the Wrong Way, and what some guy says he's gotten away with"
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10-19-2018, 08:41 PM
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Senior Member
City: Stony Point, NY
Vessel Name: VARKA
Vessel Model: Helmsman Trawlers 43 PH
Join Date: Aug 2018
Posts: 250
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Quote:
Originally Posted by caltexflanc
Depends on how and where you use the boat and your level of interest. Full time liveaboard and cruiser has different "needs" than weekend warrior.
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We are liveaboards April through November.
We do 1,000 to 1,500 miles of East Coast cruising a year. That will probably increase as time goes on.
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10-20-2018, 06:45 AM
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TF Site Team
City: Seneca Lake NY
Vessel Name: Bacchus
Vessel Model: MS 34 HT Trawler
Join Date: Nov 2014
Posts: 7,826
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The USA Today Wx book is good or the USPS Wx course manual.
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2008 MS 34 HT Trawler
"Bacchus"
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10-20-2018, 07:43 AM
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Guru
City: Ft Pierce
Vessel Name: Sold
Vessel Model: Was an Albin/PSN 40
Join Date: Oct 2011
Posts: 28,149
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To me reference books are only needed as much as your on board knowledge base.
Many books could be/should be read at least once and if desired notes taken. After that, they are pretty much mold builders in my opinion.
So I f they are cheaper on line or you can borrow/buy someone's and read it, great.
After that, spend the money on being able to get reliable internet service. The up to date answers are out there if you know where to look.
Just the other day I was looking to get rid of a few because they haven't been touched in a year and I usually follow my one year rule. Toss it, sell it, or give it away if not used in a year.
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10-20-2018, 11:23 AM
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Guru
City: Tri Cities, WA
Join Date: Nov 2012
Posts: 4,406
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Get a Kindle, download all the manuals for your boat that you don't have hard copies of, save the on your computer in pdf format and load them onto the Kindle.
Then go shopping on Amazon and find all of the books you want. They are usually cheaper to buy and download than buying the hard copy books and don't take up any room on the boat.
I have an online account through a local library on my Kindle and through it I can access online libraries where I can search for titles, authors, topics, etc. I've downloaded and read almost 400 books in the past 4 years that I've had the Kindle and I'm just scratching the surface of what's available. When I get them from the online libraries I can usually have them for 21 days then they disappear off the Kindle. I don't think I've ever taken 21 days to read one of their books.
Can you tell I think it's a great way to go?
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1981 Boston Whaler 13'
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10-20-2018, 11:37 AM
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Guru
City: Annapolis
Vessel Name: Ranger
Vessel Model: 58' Sedan Bridge
Join Date: Aug 2013
Posts: 7,088
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Chapman's Piloting
Calder's diesel book
All books, plus all systems manuals, in softcopy and available on all onboard tablets, laptops, etc.
-Chris
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10-20-2018, 03:46 PM
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Guru
City: Here
Join Date: Sep 2012
Posts: 2,940
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Chart No. 1
Grey Seas Under - Farley Mowat ..... intense
The Boat Who Wouldn't Float - Farley Mowat .... funny stuff
Chesapeake - James A. Michener .... fascinating
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10-20-2018, 04:05 PM
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Guru
City: Kitimat, North Coast BC
Vessel Name: Badger
Vessel Model: 30' Sundowner Tug
Join Date: Jul 2012
Posts: 5,946
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Another Farley Mowat book, "Sea of Slaughter", recounts the reduced numbers and total/local extinction of species since Europeans first arrived on the east coast of North America.
"My Discovery of America" also by Mowat, delves into the reasons why he was refused entry into the USA from Canada to do a promotional tour for "Sea of Slaughter".
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10-20-2018, 05:43 PM
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Guru
City: AR
Join Date: Jul 2009
Posts: 2,515
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Get a Kindle,....
No need to buy a Kindle...You can put the Kindle app on any android or Apple tablet or phone. It's free from the iTunes app store or wherever android owners get their apps.
--Peggie
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10-20-2018, 07:06 PM
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TF Site Team
City: Saltspring Island
Vessel Name: Retreat
Vessel Model: C&L 44
Join Date: Nov 2007
Posts: 5,663
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Quote:
Originally Posted by HeadMistress
Get a Kindle,....
No need to buy a Kindle...You can put the Kindle app on any android or Apple tablet or phone. It's free from the iTunes app store or wherever android owners get their apps.
--Peggie
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I have two Kindles. I don't use them because I prefer the Kindle app on my Samsung phone.
I always have the phone with me, so the Kindle would take up unnecessary space.
The newer phones batteries are up to the challenge of reading all day long, unlike a few generations ago.
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10-20-2018, 07:08 PM
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Senior Member
City: Stony Point, NY
Vessel Name: VARKA
Vessel Model: Helmsman Trawlers 43 PH
Join Date: Aug 2018
Posts: 250
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Quote:
Originally Posted by HeadMistress
Get a Kindle,....
No need to buy a Kindle...You can put the Kindle app on any android or Apple tablet or phone. It's free from the iTunes app store or wherever android owners get their apps.
--Peggie
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Thanks Peggie.
My thought on the dedicated Kindle was that since the basic e-paper one holds a charge for a very long time when unused, it was a fit for purpose device for storing all of the reading material without needing to worry about a phone being charged.
Your book is great by the way!
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10-20-2018, 08:25 PM
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Guru
City: Boston
Vessel Name: Adelante
Vessel Model: IG 30
Join Date: Nov 2016
Posts: 1,609
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Quote:
Originally Posted by AdmiralS
My thought on the dedicated Kindle was that since the basic e-paper one holds a charge for a very long time when unused, it was a fit for purpose device for storing all of the reading material without needing to worry about a phone being charged.
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An IPad mini also holds a charge when not used. You can install the kindle app for books and pdf's or use the ibook app for pdf's. You can also install weather apps, AIS apps, navigation apps, Trawler forum app, and have access to the internet.
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10-21-2018, 07:24 AM
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Guru
City: Annapolis
Vessel Name: Ranger
Vessel Model: 58' Sedan Bridge
Join Date: Aug 2013
Posts: 7,088
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Quote:
Originally Posted by HeadMistress
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No need to buy a Kindle...You can put the Kindle app on any android or Apple tablet or phone. It's free from the iTunes app store or wherever android owners get their apps.
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Quote:
Originally Posted by AdmiralS
My thought on the dedicated Kindle was that since the basic e-paper one holds a charge for a very long time when unused, it was a fit for purpose device for storing all of the reading material without needing to worry about a phone being charged.
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The idea of a dedicated tablet sounds OK, but I think if you choose a Kindle you're limited to Amazon/Kindle e-books. (???)
And some -- like Chapman's last I checked -- are only available from a different seller (Nook, in the Chapman case).
Our library is necessarily therefore seller-agnostic, as are our tablets (mostly); we just get the various apps -- Kindle, Nook, Play (or the iThing equivalent), Adobe, Overdrive, etc. -- so we're not limited by source.
And then those tablets are also our back-up nav, weather, etc. app machines too.
-Chris
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