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01-23-2017, 08:41 PM
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Senior Member
City: Monroe Twp
Vessel Name: TBD
Vessel Model: TBD
Join Date: Sep 2016
Posts: 103
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Ship made of cement.....
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01-23-2017, 08:56 PM
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Master and Commander
City: Vallejo CA
Vessel Name: Carquinez Coot
Vessel Model: penultimate Seahorse Marine Coot hull #6
Join Date: Sep 2010
Posts: 12,559
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Visited the boat several times over the last six decades. A sad but inevitable event.
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01-23-2017, 09:20 PM
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Guru
City: Powell River, BC
Vessel Name: Northern Spy
Vessel Model: Nordic Tug 26
Join Date: Feb 2012
Posts: 4,075
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Palo Alto's sister ship, Peralta, is still afloat in Powell's River, BC. I consulted with environmental engineers in CA on the Palo Alto years ago about possible bunker fuel left in her.
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01-23-2017, 09:26 PM
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Guru
City: Philadelphia, PA
Vessel Name: Revel
Vessel Model: 1984 Fu Hwa 39
Join Date: Nov 2015
Posts: 1,024
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There's the wreck of another one on the Delaware River side of Cape May NJ.
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/SS_Atlantus
In any case, it's 'concrete', not 'cement'.
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01-23-2017, 09:54 PM
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Guru
City: League City, TX
Vessel Name: Pelago
Vessel Model: Wellcraft 3300 Coastal
Join Date: Aug 2011
Posts: 1,069
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SS Selma at Seawolf Park in Galveston
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Larry
M/V Pelago
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01-23-2017, 10:26 PM
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Guru
City: Gulf Shores, Ala.
Vessel Name: Ulysses
Vessel Model: Romsdal 1963
Join Date: May 2013
Posts: 878
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Larry M ; How long has she been there ? I would have thought that I would have seen her as much as I was down that way. Years ago though.
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01-23-2017, 10:36 PM
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Guru
City: Miami Florida
Vessel Name: Possum
Vessel Model: Ellis 28
Join Date: Aug 2011
Posts: 5,307
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I never knew there were so many concrete ships. In addition to the ones mentioned there is the Sapona, near Bimini. She was used as a target during WWII.
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Parks Masterson
Retired from Hopkins-Carter Marine Supply
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01-23-2017, 10:43 PM
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Newbie
City: Poulsbo, WA
Join Date: Mar 2016
Posts: 3
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There are half a dozen used a breakwater at Kiptopeke state park Eastern Shore of VA
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01-23-2017, 10:44 PM
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Guru
City: League City, TX
Vessel Name: Pelago
Vessel Model: Wellcraft 3300 Coastal
Join Date: Aug 2011
Posts: 1,069
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Quote:
Originally Posted by ulysses
Larry M ; How long has she been there ? I would have thought that I would have seen her as much as I was down that way. Years ago though.
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She has been there a long time. From Wikipedia:
"On May 31, 1920, the Selma hit a jetty in Tampico, Mexico, ripping a 60 foot hole in her hull. After attempts to repair the ship in Galveston failed and efforts to sell the ship proved unsuccessful, US officials decided to intentionally scuttle the ship. A channel 1,500 feet long and 25 feet deep was dug to a point just off Pelican Island's eastern shoreline where on March 9, 1922, the ship was laid to rest. The wreck of the Selma has since been the object of failed plans to convert it for use as a fishing pier, pleasure resort, and an oyster farm. Long a source of curiosity and local legend, it remains important to scientists who continue to study aspects of its concrete construction."
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Larry
M/V Pelago
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01-23-2017, 11:49 PM
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Senior Member
City: Ventura
Vessel Name: Tatanka
Vessel Model: 32' Nordic Tug
Join Date: Aug 2014
Posts: 240
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A fellow sunk a cement ship out at Cortez bank, CA many years ago. It was an attempt to form a private island.
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01-24-2017, 07:33 AM
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Senior Member
City: Minden, NV & California Delta
Join Date: Mar 2012
Posts: 200
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Used to spend a lot of time camping at Sea Cliff Beach State park as a kid in the late 40's early 50's. The old "cement boat" was one of the unique things about the beach. I remember the last time I was there, probably 15 years ago, it was in really bad shape then from years of being pounded by the surf.
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01-24-2017, 09:01 AM
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Senior Member
City: Minden, NV & California Delta
Join Date: Mar 2012
Posts: 200
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Quote:
Originally Posted by DHeckrotte
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Your'e right but for some reason we always called the one at Sea Cliff the "cement boat" and the name sort of stuck in my mind.
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01-24-2017, 09:10 AM
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Guru
City: Gig Harbor
Vessel Name: Kinship
Vessel Model: North Pacific 43
Join Date: May 2015
Posts: 9,046
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Quote:
Originally Posted by Northern Spy
Palo Alto's sister ship, Peralta, is still afloat in Powell's River, BC. I consulted with environmental engineers in CA on the Palo Alto years ago about possible bunker fuel left in her.
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I am amazed that they left the fuel in the tanks when she was initially scuttled.
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01-24-2017, 09:34 AM
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Guru
City: gulf coast
Join Date: Jun 2014
Posts: 3,440
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I think concrete barges were more common. There was on in Neshaminy creek off the delaware river when I first started boating.
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01-24-2017, 10:04 AM
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Guru
City: Concrete Washington State
Vessel Name: Willy
Vessel Model: Willard Nomad 30'
Join Date: Oct 2007
Posts: 18,743
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bayview,
I would think that unlikely as most barges are built of flat surfaces. I think concrete lacks the stiffness necessary. Are these unusual shaped barges?
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North Western Washington State USA
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01-24-2017, 10:30 AM
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Guru
City: Powell River, BC
Vessel Name: Northern Spy
Vessel Model: Nordic Tug 26
Join Date: Feb 2012
Posts: 4,075
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Quote:
Originally Posted by dhays
I am amazed that they left the fuel in the tanks when she was initially scuttled.
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Not the same environmental mindset then. Heck they buried two WW II vintage concrete ships in Newport, Oregon used as wharfs. There was a fair amount of bunker in the PR hulks up until the 90s.
Weathered bunker fuel is more akin to tar than oil.
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01-24-2017, 10:32 AM
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Guru
City: Powell River, BC
Vessel Name: Northern Spy
Vessel Model: Nordic Tug 26
Join Date: Feb 2012
Posts: 4,075
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Quote:
Originally Posted by Nomad Willy
bayview,
I would think that unlikely as most barges are built of flat surfaces. I think concrete lacks the stiffness necessary. Are these unusual shaped barges?
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They are barges. They look like steamships, but we're towed by ocean going tugs. Had auxiliary power, steering gear, and were crewed.
PS: Ships are mostly flat planar surfaces too.
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01-24-2017, 10:35 AM
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Guru
City: Powell River, BC
Vessel Name: Northern Spy
Vessel Model: Nordic Tug 26
Join Date: Feb 2012
Posts: 4,075
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Www.Concreteships.org is a fairly accurate website. John Campbell, an amateur historian, and myself provided the info for the Powell River hulks. I was the project manager for the evaluation and re-mooring of the hulks 15 years ago.
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01-24-2017, 10:45 AM
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Guru
City: gulf coast
Join Date: Jun 2014
Posts: 3,440
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The one I saw looked like any other barge. Did not look like a ship. Not hard to have bulkheads inside for stiffness.
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