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Old 10-13-2015, 10:14 AM   #21
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About 8 years ago I was coming in to Grand Isle, LA from day trip for tuna and wahoo and happen to cut a corner of the security zone on the LOOP (Louisiana offshore oil port....only US port for offloading the big boy tankers and a significant percentage of US imports) at dusk. I was running about 40 kn in my 29ft SeaVee with 4 young boys aboard when one of them points out a large boat running us down from the port stern quarter. This 'boat' was about 110 ft and had a gunner on the foredeck manning a .50 cal mounted BMG. I cut the throttles and turned up the vhf in time to hear the warning that I was in a security zone....rhut rho Relroy! They were pleasant about it and escorted us a couple of miles East to clear the prohibited area. This was very entertaining to my son and his friends and they still give me crap about it now and then. The silhouette of that deck gun and the fact that that vessel was capable of that speed was impressive.
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Old 10-13-2015, 10:52 AM   #22
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Every time I boat on Lake Tahoe I am boarded by the GC. Kids with guns, why does a CG RIB on Tahoe need a 30 caliber machine gun?

My boat is a newer non descript run about with 4 senior non drinking adults aboard.
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Old 10-13-2015, 12:53 PM   #23
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Every time I boat on Lake Tahoe I am boarded by the GC. Kids with guns, why does a CG RIB on Tahoe need a 30 caliber machine gun?

My boat is a newer non descript run about with 4 senior non drinking adults aboard.
That's a dumb question. It's because Lake Tahoe is a direct route to Colombia.
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Old 10-13-2015, 01:00 PM   #24
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That's a dumb question. It's because Lake Tahoe is a direct route to Colombia.
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Old 10-13-2015, 01:06 PM   #25
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Every time I boat on Lake Tahoe I am boarded by the GC. Kids with guns, why does a CG RIB on Tahoe need a 30 caliber machine gun?

My boat is a newer non descript run about with 4 senior non drinking adults aboard.
I (likely mistakenly) thought that the Coast Guard's ability to search without a warrant came from the (implied) customs exception to the 4th amendment, and the the exception only applied on waterways that could potentially be used for international travel. Since Lake Tahoe and its inlets/outlets are all internal to the US, where do they get their authority to search absent a warrant?
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I (likely mistakenly) thought that the Coast Guard's ability to search without a warrant came from the (implied) customs exception to the 4th amendment, and the the exception only applied on waterways that could potentially be used for international travel. Since Lake Tahoe and its inlets/outlets are all internal to the US, where do they get their authority to search absent a warrant?
any navigable waterway...

https://www.uscg.mil/legal/CGHO/cgho...N/HOA1ART1.htm

http://navwaters.com/2012/11/12/the-...s-coast-guard/


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Old 10-13-2015, 01:58 PM   #28
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We were running north of Fernandina a few years ago and a swarm of CG vessels appeared and one with the mounted M16 approached and asked us to move to the side. He then stood by us as a big boomer appeared from the King's Bay Sub Base. Now that's a sight - and not a time to be messing with the CG.
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Old 10-13-2015, 02:08 PM   #29
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Flying into JAX earlier this year I saw this out the window just off the St Mary's inlet.
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Yes, it was the LNG dock. I thought I could fill my tanks. When I realized I use diesel I backed off, but too late.



For many of us around this area, avoiding the gas dock is second nature.

In addition to their periodic security zone announcement on Ch 16, the security detail usually hails 4-5 times before sending out a boat. Otherwise, maybe that boat just happened to be already out there, patrolling near where you were...

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Old 10-13-2015, 05:55 PM   #31
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There were 2 boats out there surrounding some poor guy in a rubber ducky. One broke away to play with me.
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