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01-27-2014, 02:30 PM
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Guru
City: Inside Passage Summer/Columbia River Winter
Vessel Name: Alaskan Sea-Duction
Vessel Model: 1988 M/Y Camargue YachtFisher
Join Date: Jul 2012
Posts: 8,050
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A Selene Convert?
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01-27-2014, 02:40 PM
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#2
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Guru
City: Port Townsend Washington
Vessel Name: " OTTER "
Vessel Model: Ocean Alexander Europa 40
Join Date: Nov 2009
Posts: 2,378
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Quote:
Originally Posted by Alaskan Sea-Duction
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Now if you could get her to fall in love with a wealthy senile 90 year old that would marry her and make you his skipper your would have it all. And in two years when the old fart croaks you get the wife back AND a new boat
HOLLYWOOD
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01-27-2014, 02:42 PM
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Guru
City: Vero Beach, FL.
Vessel Name: FIREFLY
Vessel Model: Pilgrim 40
Join Date: Nov 2012
Posts: 918
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Quote:
Originally Posted by hollywood8118
Now if you could get her to fall in love with a wealthy senile 90 year old that would marry her and make you his skipper your would have it all. And in two years when the old fart croaks you get the wife back AND a new boat
HOLLYWOOD
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I rather suspect mine could make him croak in < a year.
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01-27-2014, 02:45 PM
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Guru
City: Tampa
Join Date: Oct 2013
Posts: 844
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Quote:
Originally Posted by Alaskan Sea-Duction
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Damn I reckon!
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01-28-2014, 05:08 AM
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#5
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Veteran Member
City: NH
Join Date: Jan 2014
Posts: 72
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That is a fine boat. But it's $300.00 over my budget. Moving on.
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01-28-2014, 09:03 AM
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#6
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Guru
City: Long Beach, CA
Vessel Name: Heads Up
Vessel Model: Grand Banks 42 Classic
Join Date: Mar 2013
Posts: 956
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OMG!!! What's not to love? I'd trade in my GB for that boat.
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01-28-2014, 09:05 AM
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#7
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Guru
City: Carefree, Arizona
Vessel Name: sunchaser V
Vessel Model: DeFever 48 (sold)
Join Date: Apr 2008
Posts: 10,186
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I'd view this vessel as a tweener. Maybe light on fuel capacity for serious blue water work but about $700K to 1M more than a 62 or 64 Nordhavn that is blue water capable. Or about $800K to 1M more than a 65' Outer Reef that is of similar size but with better layout and possibly better build quality. Or how about a used 65' or new 58' Fleming for the same price as the Selene? Lots of competition out there.
BTW, the used Nordhavn market has boomed as compared to a brief few years ago.
But give it to Selene, they do catch one's eye.
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01-28-2014, 09:17 AM
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#8
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Guru
City: Cleveland
Vessel Name: Irishland
Vessel Model: Chris Craft Corinthian 380
Join Date: Mar 2012
Posts: 587
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Quote:
Originally Posted by sunchaser
I'd view this vessel as a tweener. Maybe light on fuel capacity for serious blue water work but about $700K to 1M more than a 62 or 64 Nordhavn that is blue water capable. Or about $800K to 1M more than a 65' Outer Reef that is of similar size but with better layout and possibly better build quality. Or how about a used 65' or new 58' Fleming for the same price as the Selene? Lots of competition out there.
BTW, the used Nordhavn market has boomed as compared to a brief few years ago.
But give it to Selene, they do catch one's eye.
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I agree with you 100%. It's a nice vessel for sure, but it does lack in the fuel department. I would take a Fleming over the Selene any day, even though the 58 and the 65 lacks a little bit in fuel department as well. But that is me.
Happy cruising.
H. Foster
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01-28-2014, 09:55 AM
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#9
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Senior Member
City: Victoria BC
Vessel Name: LUCKY US
Vessel Model: American Tug
Join Date: Mar 2013
Posts: 267
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Beautiful boat for sure. Not sure why some think 2300 gallons is lacking but hey, for some the glass is half empty etc etc
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01-28-2014, 10:01 AM
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#10
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Guru
City: North Charleston, SC
Join Date: Sep 2010
Posts: 4,870
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Yep, I was about to write a check but changed my mind because of the fuel capacity!
I think the reason so many manufactures are able to produce and sell boats is that people's needs and tastes are different. Some focus on one thing or things, others focus on something different.
Fortunately, my lifestyle and needs are satisfied with a much smaller, much less expensive boat than that.
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01-28-2014, 10:02 AM
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#11
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Guru
City: North Charleston, SC
Join Date: Sep 2010
Posts: 4,870
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Quote:
Originally Posted by jukesy
Beautiful boat for sure. Not sure why some think 2300 gallons is lacking but hey, for some the glass is half empty etc etc
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That's close to $10K to fill up in the USA. That's more than some people pay for a boat.
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01-28-2014, 10:11 AM
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#12
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Guru
City: Vero Beach, FL.
Vessel Name: FIREFLY
Vessel Model: Pilgrim 40
Join Date: Nov 2012
Posts: 918
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What? no humidor....forgetaboutit
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01-28-2014, 10:17 AM
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#13
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Guru
City: Carefree, Arizona
Vessel Name: sunchaser V
Vessel Model: DeFever 48 (sold)
Join Date: Apr 2008
Posts: 10,186
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Quote:
Originally Posted by jukesy
Beautiful boat for sure. Not sure why some think 2300 gallons is lacking but hey, for some the glass is half empty etc etc
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To compete with the Nordhavns, 2300 gal may be tight on a CA to Hilo run. Lurking in the back of my mind also is the claim made against Selene for inflating fuel capacity. For nearly $3M one doesn't want to get cut short on the boat's intended mission - serious blue water cruising.
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01-28-2014, 10:24 AM
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#14
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Guru
City: Cleveland
Vessel Name: Irishland
Vessel Model: Chris Craft Corinthian 380
Join Date: Mar 2012
Posts: 587
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Quote:
Originally Posted by sunchaser
To compete with the Nordhavns, 2300 gal may be tight on a CA to Hilo run. Lurking in the back of my mind also is the claim made against Selene for inflating fuel capacity. For nearly $3M one doesn't want to get cut short on the boat's intended mission - serious blue water cruising.
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Here you go
Truth in tankage at issue in lawsuit
H. Foster
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01-28-2014, 11:46 AM
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#15
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Guru
City: Long Beach, CA
Vessel Name: Heads Up
Vessel Model: Grand Banks 42 Classic
Join Date: Mar 2013
Posts: 956
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That does it. I'm keeping my GB 42. At my tankage I have 1100 mile range and I'm good with coastal cruising.
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01-28-2014, 12:05 PM
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#16
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Guru
City: Seattle
Join Date: Apr 2012
Posts: 1,142
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Selene has had quality control issues over the years. I know a few years ago, a Port Townsend company did their warranty work and the electrical systems and wiring were always an adventure, seldom the same in any two boats. They were not complementary about the build quality. To this day, you can stand at the bow, sight down the hull, and if the light is right, you can see the glass cloth pattern through the gelcoat. Their selling point has always been that they are 25-30% cheaper than a comparable Nordy or KK. To me, the price differential is worth it to ensure the quality.
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01-28-2014, 12:47 PM
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#17
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Senior Member
Join Date: Nov 2010
Posts: 460
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Quote:
Originally Posted by THD
Selene has had quality control issues over the years. I know a few years ago, a Port Townsend company did their warranty work and the electrical systems and wiring were always an adventure, seldom the same in any two boats. They were not complementary about the build quality. To this day, you can stand at the bow, sight down the hull, and if the light is right, you can see the glass cloth pattern through the gelcoat. Their selling point has always been that they are 25-30% cheaper than a comparable Nordy or KK. To me, the price differential is worth it to ensure the quality.
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Damn... wish I'd read this thread 3 years ago...
Dave
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01-28-2014, 12:59 PM
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#18
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Scraping Paint
City: Fort Lauderdale
Vessel Model: CHB 48 Zodiac YL 4.2
Join Date: Oct 2007
Posts: 3,804
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Quote:
Originally Posted by THD
To this day, you can stand at the bow, sight down the hull, and if the light is right, you can see the glass cloth pattern through the gelcoat.
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Heck, you can see the print-through on a Hinckley without having to get the light right. It doesn't mean the construction is suspect. It's not what we call a "yacht quality" finish but then again you aren't paying for one either.
That's what you get for having a good proportion between resin and glass and not having another few hundred pounds of fairing of overly thick gelcoat.
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01-28-2014, 01:07 PM
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#19
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Guru
City: Carefree, Arizona
Vessel Name: sunchaser V
Vessel Model: DeFever 48 (sold)
Join Date: Apr 2008
Posts: 10,186
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Quote:
Originally Posted by magicbus
Damn... wish I'd read this thread 3 years ago...
Dave
4828
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Yeah, don't tell Brian Calvert either who has been enjoying his 48 Selene for the past few years as he cruised from Seattle to the Marquesas and then on to the South Seas.
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01-28-2014, 01:44 PM
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#20
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Guru
City: Seattle, WA
Vessel Name: Pau Hana
Vessel Model: 1989 PT52 Overseas Yachtfisher
Join Date: Aug 2012
Posts: 2,676
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Quote:
Originally Posted by sunchaser
Yeah, don't tell Brian Calvert either who has been enjoying his 48 Selene for the past few years as he cruised from Seattle to the Marquesas and then on to the South Seas.
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Damn...ya beat me to it....
Brian's website:
Home | Furthur Adventure
Can't forget Adrian Salzer, either- a Selene 43 that cruised from Seattle to Glacier Bay, then southward to Seattle m Astorian, San Francisco, San Diego, Cabo, Panama, thru the Canal, around the Caribbean, the Keys and then up to Maine over 3 + years without a problem......yup, terrible boats indeed.
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1989 52' PT Overseas yachtfisher
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