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Old 01-09-2016, 08:25 PM   #21
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I know the Fleming 55 has a dedicated escape hatch and ladder built into the forward cabin.
Yes, that is a pretty nifty rig and great forward thinking.
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Old 01-10-2016, 04:11 AM   #22
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Because we leave our escape hatch on our Krogen 42 open 24/7 we have installed a bar across the hatch to prevent someone from entering while we are off the boat. Unlocking the bar and removing it is a nightly routine before we go to bed. Since both of us are short we have step stool next to the berth to climb into the berth. The step stool would make it easier to get out of the hatch.

Not perfect but a fairly decent arrangement, and the hatch provides a nice breeze.

We have a tarp which is fitted over the foredeck to prevent rain from coming in the hatch. The tarp is high enough off the deck that we can crawl under the tarp if we needed to escape.
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Old 01-10-2016, 04:37 AM   #23
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No way I'm fitting through an 18" deck hatch, if there is one.
I can fit through a 20" square hatch, but have not tried an 18". I can't see that it would be a problem though if you go through one arm first, not sideways.

What size hatches do others have that they can fit through?
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Have you ever considered how you would get out of your sleeping quarters if you couldn't go through the salon?
Many aft cabins have an exit to the rear but what about all the others with forward quarters as much a a full deck below?
No way I'm fitting through an 18" deck hatch, if there is one.
Lose some weight..?
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Old 01-10-2016, 06:36 AM   #25
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"Great question though.....if you turn turtle, how are you getting out?"

Swimming thru the huge holes where the picture windows or wooden doors used to be.

A knock down would do major damage , never mind a full rollover.

and for many a comber breaking on deck would probably be a life or death situation.
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Old 01-10-2016, 07:33 AM   #26
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Love the loose weight comments, like we are all one size only some are fat.


Next time someone speaks of needing help changing battery's I will suggest to them lifting weight and getting in shape and not being a skinny man.












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Old 01-10-2016, 08:28 AM   #27
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Boatpoker that is well and good but 18" is not going to work for most in this country.

I am not going to get my shoulders thru the listed requirements................
The diagonal measurement is larger. I suggest trying to see if you can fit through before there's an emergency. You might also put your arms through first.
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Old 01-10-2016, 08:40 AM   #28
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The Monk MC 42 has no escape path in the aft cabin. A friend with the same boat stages a hammer in the aft cabins so he can smash out the aft stationary windows to get out.
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How old is that reg.? My 1989 boat in no way meets it.
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Hi Scott, what do you think about those fold-up helm chairs? I have a pilothouse which is rather tight, but it's interesting to think that I could reduce the depth of the PH and still have proper seating. I'm losing about 2ft because of the need to walk behind the helm chairs.

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Next time someone speaks of needing help changing battery's I will suggest to them lifting weight and getting in shape and not being a skinny man.
Interesting idea. Next time I hit the gym I'll suggest they buy some 8D's instead of the big Eleikos!
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Old 01-10-2016, 10:08 AM   #31
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OK, so, prepping for that 3AM moonless walk on water, we all have a ditch bag and PFDs in the cabin or on the foredeck?
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This discussion reminds me of the struggle I had with the access panel to all the wiring in the helm cabinet on the flybridge. Horizontal rectangle, a marine starboard panel, held on with four screws, one in each corner. The panel is precisely big enough that I can get my head and one arm and shoulder in there, but not both arms. I have to do everything one-handed, or one hand and my mouth. So far I haven't swallowed a fuse or screw or nut, but I did drop a crimper down the wiring chase. I'm thinking this summer I'll hire a skinny six year old kid or a highly capable spider monkey to crawl in there and retrieve that crimper.
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We have two escape hatches in our 1978 Hatteras large enough to exit, but I have been researching fire hoods that are designed to provide a short period of air for emergency fire escape. It's not the smoke that kills so quickly when you attempt to exit a fire area but the temperature that can be hundreds of degrees higher at 5-ft than at floor level. Fire hoods can be purchased for less than $35.00.
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We have two escape hatches in our 1978 Hatteras large enough to exit, but I have been researching fire hoods that are designed to provide a short period of air for emergency fire escape. It's not the smoke that kills so quickly when you attempt to exit a fire area but the temperature that can be hundreds of degrees higher at 5-ft than at floor level. Fire hoods can be purchased for less than $35.00.
Order one extra and try it....... Then keep it and practice putting it on once in a while.
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Scott Davis, you need to try and see if you fit... I bet you will. Those hatches are bigger than you think.
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Good question!

Re our Tolly's forward hatch. I am quite sure you'd best be skinny to exit there. Fortunately our adult kids are thin... but we are not. Luckily we never sleep forward.

Master stateroom has large sized tinted-Plexiglas window/door that opens both out and up with two separately hinged large portions. Would be hard to constrict opening one or both.

Salon has easily accessible slider-doors each side.

Just for S&G next time aboard I'm going to try squeezing through forward hatch... doubt that is possible with my frame.
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"The Monk MC 42 has no escape path in the aft cabin. A friend with the same boat stages a hammer in the aft cabins so he can smash out the aft stationary windows to get out.
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In Canada (likely the same regulation exists in other jurisdictions) for a vessel 12m (42ft) or longer, a fire axe is required. 2 if over 24m.

When I do safety inspections for our YC, I always look for the fire axe to be located where is can be used to break out of an accommodation space in the event the normal route of egress is blocked by fire.

Nobody needs to break into a burning boat, yet I have frequently found boaters keeping the required fire axe in the lazarette, engine room or other inaccessible places.
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How old is that reg.? My 1989 boat in no way meets it.
I would not be at all concerned about the date of a regulation. I would be concerned about being able to escape regardless of any regulations.

The point here is not being able to meet a regulation, it's being able to escape a sinking or burning boat to live another day.
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OK, so, prepping for that 3AM moonless walk on water, we all have a ditch bag and PFDs in the cabin or on the foredeck?
While our boat does have adequate avenues of escape from both cabins, I never thought about having PFD's located nearby. Guess I will re-think that. Thanks
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