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05-22-2015, 06:49 AM
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Senior Member
City: Knoxville
Vessel Name: Pura Vida
Vessel Model: 08 Meridian 490 Pilothouse
Join Date: Apr 2014
Posts: 316
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"pipsqueak" I like it. Be bold or go home!
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05-22-2015, 07:18 AM
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Moderator Emeritus
City: Cameron, La
Vessel Name: Baobab
Vessel Model: Bayliner 4788
Join Date: Aug 2013
Posts: 2,660
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"Nah ... I need to amortize the horn, compressor, tank, and controller costs regardless. And I sure don't need a stinkin' flying bridge and more windage! "
Mark, I remember seeing a photo on here with you sitting on your cabin top, wistfully dreaming of a flying bridge but danged if I can find it
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05-22-2015, 09:04 AM
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Guru
City: UMR MM283
Vessel Name: Northern Lights II
Vessel Model: Bayliner 3870
Join Date: Jan 2013
Posts: 1,357
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The houseboats all bow into their slips. A couple of the houseboat owners do give a blast on the horn when backing out.
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Ron on Northern Lights II
I don't like making plans for the day because the word "premeditated" gets thrown around in the courtroom.
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05-22-2015, 09:20 AM
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Guru
City: gulf coast
Join Date: Jun 2014
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leaving the dock is one long blast. backing is an additional three.
The problem with tooting hello is that it can be confused with proper navigating signals.
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05-22-2015, 12:46 PM
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Master and Commander
City: Vallejo CA
Vessel Name: Carquinez Coot
Vessel Model: penultimate Seahorse Marine Coot hull #6
Join Date: Sep 2010
Posts: 12,559
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Quote:
Originally Posted by Marin
... But the radio is very often dead silent for an hour or more on 16. (The commercial traffic channels are a different story).
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I also find constant scanning of commercial traffic channels to be very useful. Radio contact between vessels and the local USCG traffic control provides info on ferry departures as well as barge and ship movements. Similarly, communication between ships and Union Pacific Railroad's Suisun Bridge warns of ship movements in the strait too.
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05-22-2015, 12:55 PM
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#26
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Guru
City: Hotel, CA
Join Date: Sep 2011
Posts: 8,323
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Quote:
Originally Posted by bayview
The problem with tooting hello is that it can be confused with proper navigating signals.
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The average boater would be confused if you used the horn as a navigation signaling device.
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Craig
It's easier to fool people than to convince them that they've been fooled - Mark Twain
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05-22-2015, 01:10 PM
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Master and Commander
City: Vallejo CA
Vessel Name: Carquinez Coot
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Join Date: Sep 2010
Posts: 12,559
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Quote:
Originally Posted by dimer2
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Mark, I remember seeing a photo on here with you sitting on your cabin top, wistfully dreaming of a flying bridge but danged if I can find it
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See post #52 of the "getting someones attention from the fly bridge" forum.
No, I wasn't dreaming of a flying bridge!
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05-22-2015, 01:13 PM
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Guru
City: Beaufort, NC USA
Vessel Name: Sylphide
Vessel Model: Kingston Aluminum Yacht 44' Custom
Join Date: Aug 2014
Posts: 2,228
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Quote:
Originally Posted by CPseudonym
The average boater would be confused if you used the horn as a navigation signaling device.
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This is very true. more often than not, the only signal that most boaters pay attention to is the danger signal. Even then, it generally takes a couple of tries to get the point across.
Passing and meeting arrangements are done almost exclusively over the radio these days.
The 1+2 salute on the lakes is an old tradition. The same signal isn't used for anything else unless there's restricted visibility, in which case, you wouldn't be waving at a ship because you probably wouldn't see it. When vessels are in sight of one another, one prolonged and two short blasts doesn't have an official designation on inland waters.
We generally don't do it at night, either. Our crew is sleeping too. I remember one sunny summer day during a holiday weekend, somewhere in the St. Clair River. There were millions of boats out it seemed, and everyone was being very friendly (read: Drunk) and wanted to hear the horn. We obliged many times. Probably too many, as one of our engineers, who was trying to sleep, decided that he didn't want to hear the horn any more. He decided that he would try to get a potato stuck in the horn. He was not successful.
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05-22-2015, 01:15 PM
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Guru
City: Beaufort, NC USA
Vessel Name: Sylphide
Vessel Model: Kingston Aluminum Yacht 44' Custom
Join Date: Aug 2014
Posts: 2,228
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Here's a heartwarming story of another old Great Lakes whistle salute tradition.
The Flower Lady of the Great Lakes
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05-22-2015, 01:24 PM
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Master and Commander
City: Vallejo CA
Vessel Name: Carquinez Coot
Vessel Model: penultimate Seahorse Marine Coot hull #6
Join Date: Sep 2010
Posts: 12,559
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Quote:
Originally Posted by Wayfarer
...Passing and meeting arrangements are done almost exclusively over the radio these days. ...
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I can rarely identify a boat's name except when it has already passed me from the stern or when, rarely, I'm approaching a boat's stern. Besides, many boats don't monitor their radio or don't have one (especially sailboats who motor as often as not). After 450 hours on inland waters, only two boats have called for a pass.
I don't use one short or two shorts maneuvering signals unless there is a danger of collision and the other vessel doesn't evidence intent or awareness. Rarely hear other vessels coordinating a meet over the radio except for commercial vessels.
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05-22-2015, 02:14 PM
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Guru
City: Vero Beach, FL.
Vessel Name: FIREFLY
Vessel Model: Pilgrim 40
Join Date: Nov 2012
Posts: 918
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Quote:
Originally Posted by CPseudonym
The average boater would be confused if you used the horn as a navigation signaling device.
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Post is too large, you can remove the last four words and it will still be true and factual.
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05-22-2015, 02:57 PM
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#32
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Guru
City: Hotel, CA
Join Date: Sep 2011
Posts: 8,323
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Quote:
Originally Posted by SCOTTEDAVIS
Post is too large, you can remove the last four words and it will still be true and factual.
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The word average can be removed too as I only put it in there to stop arguments beforehand. I'm comfortable stating 99/100 boaters hitting the water this weekend haven't got a clue.
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Craig
It's easier to fool people than to convince them that they've been fooled - Mark Twain
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05-22-2015, 03:17 PM
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Guru
City: Madeira Beach, FL
Vessel Name: Seaweed
Vessel Model: Schucker mini-trawler
Join Date: Oct 2011
Posts: 1,236
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Well, I don't pretend to remember everything so I have a couple of visual cues in my pilothouse. I suspect you already know the red port side has one bell.
This works for me, and perhaps you as well?
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05-22-2015, 04:58 PM
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#34
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Master and Commander
City: Vallejo CA
Vessel Name: Carquinez Coot
Vessel Model: penultimate Seahorse Marine Coot hull #6
Join Date: Sep 2010
Posts: 12,559
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No indication of collision ... no toot ... unless I recognize you as a pal or wish to acknowledge your "hello."
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05-22-2015, 05:30 PM
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Master and Commander
City: Vallejo CA
Vessel Name: Carquinez Coot
Vessel Model: penultimate Seahorse Marine Coot hull #6
Join Date: Sep 2010
Posts: 12,559
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This ship gave a prolonged (four-second) signal (HERE I AM! HELLO!) upon approaching a sailboat race:
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05-22-2015, 05:36 PM
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#36
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Master and Commander
City: Vallejo CA
Vessel Name: Carquinez Coot
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Join Date: Sep 2010
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Is this sailboat giving the "raspberry"? (Also, his mainsail is trimmed too tight/close.)
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05-22-2015, 11:09 PM
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Guru
City: Beaufort, NC USA
Vessel Name: Sylphide
Vessel Model: Kingston Aluminum Yacht 44' Custom
Join Date: Aug 2014
Posts: 2,228
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What is the deal with that raspberry?? What is that? I kinda want it to just be there for raspberries.
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05-22-2015, 11:15 PM
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#38
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Master and Commander
City: Vallejo CA
Vessel Name: Carquinez Coot
Vessel Model: penultimate Seahorse Marine Coot hull #6
Join Date: Sep 2010
Posts: 12,559
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Quote:
Originally Posted by Wayfarer
What is the deal with that raspberry?? What is that? I kinda want it to just be there for raspberries.
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Your guess is a good as mine. As it is highly unusual compared to the competitors' boats (photo taken during a sailboat race), I presume the boater was trying to make a statement.
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05-23-2015, 12:20 AM
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#39
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Guru
City: Sydney
Vessel Name: Sojourn
Vessel Model: Integrity 386
Join Date: Oct 2011
Posts: 13,333
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Re mainsail trim, he`s running square, some long keel sailboats get the "death rolls" doing that, the fix is hardening the main. Or it could just be badly adjusted. But, I`ve never seen a kite designed like that.
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2005 Integrity 386 "Sojourn"
Sydney Australia
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