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Old 05-22-2015, 07:49 AM   #21
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"pipsqueak" I like it. Be bold or go home!
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Old 05-22-2015, 08:18 AM   #22
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"Nah ... I need to amortize the horn, compressor, tank, and controller costs regardless. And I sure don't need a stinkin' flying bridge and more windage! "


Mark, I remember seeing a photo on here with you sitting on your cabin top, wistfully dreaming of a flying bridge but danged if I can find it
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Old 05-22-2015, 10:04 AM   #23
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The houseboats all bow into their slips. A couple of the houseboat owners do give a blast on the horn when backing out.
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Old 05-22-2015, 10:20 AM   #24
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leaving the dock is one long blast. backing is an additional three.


The problem with tooting hello is that it can be confused with proper navigating signals.
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Old 05-22-2015, 01:46 PM   #25
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... But the radio is very often dead silent for an hour or more on 16. (The commercial traffic channels are a different story).
I also find constant scanning of commercial traffic channels to be very useful. Radio contact between vessels and the local USCG traffic control provides info on ferry departures as well as barge and ship movements. Similarly, communication between ships and Union Pacific Railroad's Suisun Bridge warns of ship movements in the strait too.


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Old 05-22-2015, 01:55 PM   #26
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The problem with tooting hello is that it can be confused with proper navigating signals.

The average boater would be confused if you used the horn as a navigation signaling device.
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Old 05-22-2015, 02:10 PM   #27
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Mark, I remember seeing a photo on here with you sitting on your cabin top, wistfully dreaming of a flying bridge but danged if I can find it
See post #52 of the "getting someones attention from the fly bridge" forum.

No, I wasn't dreaming of a flying bridge!
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Old 05-22-2015, 02:13 PM   #28
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The average boater would be confused if you used the horn as a navigation signaling device.
This is very true. more often than not, the only signal that most boaters pay attention to is the danger signal. Even then, it generally takes a couple of tries to get the point across.

Passing and meeting arrangements are done almost exclusively over the radio these days.

The 1+2 salute on the lakes is an old tradition. The same signal isn't used for anything else unless there's restricted visibility, in which case, you wouldn't be waving at a ship because you probably wouldn't see it. When vessels are in sight of one another, one prolonged and two short blasts doesn't have an official designation on inland waters.

We generally don't do it at night, either. Our crew is sleeping too. I remember one sunny summer day during a holiday weekend, somewhere in the St. Clair River. There were millions of boats out it seemed, and everyone was being very friendly (read: Drunk) and wanted to hear the horn. We obliged many times. Probably too many, as one of our engineers, who was trying to sleep, decided that he didn't want to hear the horn any more. He decided that he would try to get a potato stuck in the horn. He was not successful.
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Here's a heartwarming story of another old Great Lakes whistle salute tradition.

The Flower Lady of the Great Lakes
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...Passing and meeting arrangements are done almost exclusively over the radio these days. ...
I can rarely identify a boat's name except when it has already passed me from the stern or when, rarely, I'm approaching a boat's stern. Besides, many boats don't monitor their radio or don't have one (especially sailboats who motor as often as not). After 450 hours on inland waters, only two boats have called for a pass.


I don't use one short or two shorts maneuvering signals unless there is a danger of collision and the other vessel doesn't evidence intent or awareness. Rarely hear other vessels coordinating a meet over the radio except for commercial vessels.
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Old 05-22-2015, 03:14 PM   #31
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The average boater would be confused if you used the horn as a navigation signaling device.

Post is too large, you can remove the last four words and it will still be true and factual.

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Post is too large, you can remove the last four words and it will still be true and factual.


The word average can be removed too as I only put it in there to stop arguments beforehand. I'm comfortable stating 99/100 boaters hitting the water this weekend haven't got a clue.
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Well, I don't pretend to remember everything so I have a couple of visual cues in my pilothouse. I suspect you already know the red port side has one bell.



This works for me, and perhaps you as well?
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Old 05-22-2015, 05:58 PM   #34
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No indication of collision ... no toot ... unless I recognize you as a pal or wish to acknowledge your "hello."


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Old 05-22-2015, 06:30 PM   #35
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This ship gave a prolonged (four-second) signal (HERE I AM! HELLO!) upon approaching a sailboat race:





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Old 05-22-2015, 06:36 PM   #36
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Is this sailboat giving the "raspberry"? (Also, his mainsail is trimmed too tight/close.)


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What is the deal with that raspberry?? What is that? I kinda want it to just be there for raspberries.
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What is the deal with that raspberry?? What is that? I kinda want it to just be there for raspberries.
Your guess is a good as mine. As it is highly unusual compared to the competitors' boats (photo taken during a sailboat race), I presume the boater was trying to make a statement.
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Old 05-23-2015, 01:20 AM   #39
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Re mainsail trim, he`s running square, some long keel sailboats get the "death rolls" doing that, the fix is hardening the main. Or it could just be badly adjusted. But, I`ve never seen a kite designed like that.
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