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Old 11-20-2012, 07:07 PM   #21
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I'm not happy with my rails at the bow. It might be hard to visualize from the photo, but above the deck the bow flares out at the same angle as the bow itself. Then the rails continue that outward flare. The result is that if your leg is against the rail you are already half way overboard! Pretty useless - may as well not have any rails. Although I like the teak capping.
At some point I want to change the rails so they actually provide safety and support.
Rail heights which are too low may trip you overboard if you come against them unexpectedly rather than retain you onboard, because too much body weight is above the rail. Worse still,the railing gives a false sense of security, encouraging risky behavior.
That`s why building regulations specify balcony railing heights on buildings.
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Old 11-20-2012, 07:33 PM   #22
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We have 'teak tops'which I like, what I don't like is the very 'agricultural' stanchions that support them. Also, unlike my last boat there is no horizontal wire or rail running between the hand rail and the teak bulwark, which if you have young kids on board is a good thing.

Warning thread creep! I also like the idea of canvas in-fills around the lower deck and flybridge, dark blue would be good.
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Old 11-20-2012, 07:41 PM   #23
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Some boats like Pilot or rescue boats have their rails WAY inbd. So far that one walks outboard of the rails and uses them holding on.

Andy G,
I think your problem is that the designer of your boat viewed it as sculpture only. It would'nt be easy to do but you could re-do the rails so they slanted "tumbling home" the same amount as they "flare" the way they are. Perhaps you could swap sides w the stanchions?

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"Eric I believe you can peel that white plastic coating off and expose the stainless wire. A friend did that on his Catalina 42 four or five years ago and it looks MUCH nicer."
VERY good idea Jen ... I never thought of that.
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Old 11-20-2012, 07:53 PM   #24
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Andy--- GBs up through the mid 80s or so have very basic bronze U-section stanchions. I like them because they fit the overall character of the boat. You also don't have to polish them.

With regards to the stainless safety wire you could add that to your boat easily enough, I think, by drilling holes through your stanchions and coming up with a good anchoring system for the ends of the wires. I've seen that done on a few GBs in our marina and it looks good and is very functional.
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Old 11-20-2012, 08:49 PM   #25
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... I much prefer the look of wood rails and trim on a boat ..
SS railings are more consistent with the Coot's work-boat appearance.
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Old 11-21-2012, 03:27 AM   #26
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The Coot's 360-degree level deck is circled by a gunwale and railing. Rails consists of 1.25-inch steel tubing on the vertical posts and the top rail, with 1-inch tubing for the lower rail. They're sturdy (don't wiggle when one takes hold) and come up to the waist. There are also railings on the top edges of the saloon and forward cabin, providing a two-hand hold when desired when maneuvering along the relatively wide 16-inch side decks. I'm happy with the arrangement, particularly since I've a poor sense of balance.



Those are indeed remarkable fine railings Mark... remarkable fine.
(The favourite saying of a Dutch friend of mine just seemed appropriate there).
Now, the anchor...oh dear...that's another matter....
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Mr. Peter B. I'm surprised at you. Casting potential slurs in the general direction of a boating accessory named in honor of your fellow countrymen...

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Old 11-21-2012, 10:05 AM   #28
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Mark,
What is that red boat behind you and those other boats? Are they Coots? They look like bigger boats but very similar. Is that in Asia? Looks like a VERY big city in the background.
And the red boat looks to have a monster Rocna anchor.
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Old 11-21-2012, 10:56 AM   #29
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My wife would not buy and boat with open rails and/or low rails. One of the features she like about the Eagle was the solid rails, the Portuguese bridge and not side decks for when we have young grand children and now great grand children. Yes our boat is some what baby/kid proof. Also many blue water boat have solid and high railings to protect the passenger and crew.

So it not so much what they are made of but their function?
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What is that red boat behind you and those other boats? Are they Coots? They look like bigger boats but very similar. Is that in Asia? Looks like a VERY big city in the background.
And the red boat looks to have a monster Rocna anchor.
Yes, the photo was taken in China by the builder. The boat directly behind my boat is the Coot Cormorant. The two other boats are other models also built by Seahorse Marine.
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Old 11-21-2012, 12:08 PM   #31
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Jennifer,
I've thought about the white vinyl coated wire and have decided I like the look of it even though it adds a bit of clutter.
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Old 11-21-2012, 12:47 PM   #32
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Eric maybe one of our photo shop pros can doctor that photo up to have stainless wire so you can see what it would look like. It really improved the appearance of my friend's Catalina (ok no sailboat cracks!!). It makes the wire blend in more than pop out. Anyway, your boat is so cute.

Andy re the canvas below the rail, our boat used to have that on the sundeck and it was I believe "pacific blue." The previous owner got rid of it and all the blue on the outside of the boat (including the original flybridge stripes). I am not a big fan of the side canvas and I SURE don't like all the hardware drilled into the deck that used to attach the stuff. But I'm sure it has it's place where it is useful.

I like my canvas rail covers and we do uncover the rails on special occasions. I rather wish though that we had not gone with the same color as the bimini--I forget the name of the color, maybe Oyster, but anyway it is VERY light and man does it show dirt. It is impossible to keep clean. We would have been better off to change colors, even if that meant getting a new bimini made. Oh well. I'll just have to live with grungy canvas until this stuff wears out... a long long time from now I'm sure...
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Old 11-21-2012, 01:05 PM   #33
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I've thought about the white vinyl coated wire and have decided I like the look of it even though it adds a bit of clutter.
Eric - As compared to your avitar that pict really does your boat justice... looken real nice!
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Old 11-21-2012, 02:30 PM   #34
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I agree and tonight I'll change the avatar. We're at Starbucks now. I'm gett'in to like this down south liv'in.
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Thank you RT Firefly that clip. Long time since I have seen it, fortunately no one seems interested. Do you perchance have a Goon Show collection, the (obscene) Derek and Clive tapes (alias Dud and Pete)...
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We are very satisfied with our railings. They are a good height, strong and the wood adds to the beauty of the boat. It's the same on the bridge, and I love to look down from the bridge on a clean boat with the wood rails shinning in the sun. We use Cetol marine gloss, two days once a year and it's done. That includes all the wood.
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Old 11-22-2012, 04:10 AM   #39
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Must admit I am pretty happy with my rail set up 1 1/4" SS with wire mid height on main deck and 2 wires on fore deck.
Height from deck to top rail and space in between is set by local marine authotity (Department of Transport)if boat is in survey to carry passangers.
I built my boat to survey standard but never put it into survey after launch day.
I have the white plastic coated ss wire at present and am pretty pleased with it.
This stuff is due for replacement soon as it is 17 years old. Will probably stick with the plastic coated stuff.
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Old 11-22-2012, 05:18 AM   #40
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Yes, I thought that would be the case. Do you have any info on the dimensions - so far I have been unable to locate it. I was going to use the height of a house balcony as minimum, but have yet to find that also.
OK, found a bit on houses - minimum 1m height, plus some othe requirements that aren't practical for a boat.
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