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Old 10-20-2018, 06:34 PM   #1
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Hi fellow trawler enthusiasts. I have a Grand Banks 36 that has running lights that need attention. I would like to keep the old stylelense, however Iím not able to locate a good set. Any and all suggestions welcome.
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Old 10-20-2018, 07:13 PM   #2
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Check out AquaSignal series 41 side lights Good size- has replaceable lens if ever needed. Put a pair on my name boards they look good
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Anchor sells colored light bulbs. Wonder if you could get colored bulbs and remove the coloring on the lens.

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Perko. Lots of places sell replacement lenses.
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Old 10-21-2018, 12:28 AM   #5
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I have the same ones. Cleaned up nice but I didn't see a way to get the lens out unless I melted the solder holding it all together. I also looked for exact replacements, old or new, and could only find one used port side light and the guy wanted a bunch 'o money. Would like to know if someone finds them for sale somewhere.
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eBay has a few...
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Old 10-21-2018, 06:36 AM   #7
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Those look like they may be Perko, but there are lots of Asian companies knocking off lookalikes. Take a look here, and parts are available. You can call them and ask where and how to get them:

https://www.perko.com/catalog/catego...4_0007_series/

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I guess I have to up my searching skill set. There they are. Ended up polishing up my old ones, put a coat of lacquer on them, replaced white LED's with green/red ones and rewired. New would be nice but the old ones have mojo. If you would ever see me on a windy day when I was backing down 300' of fairway with large boats tied on each side and into my slip you would realize the importance of a little extra mojo onboard my boat.
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“old ones have mojo“

That old Grand Banks has mojo. ��
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I plan to replace my running light bulbs with LED's soon. Never thought of using colored lights. Having done that would you recommend it? Instead of clear/white...?
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Greetings,
ONE thing to consider if replacing any running lights with LED's is USCG compliance.
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Good point.
A quick search and I found that side lights should be visible for at least 1 nautical mile on a 32' boat. Don't know how i would verify that if I used a colored light under a colored lens.
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“old ones have mojo“

That old Grand Banks has mojo. ��
Yes, have to agree. History. I have a nice history story on my boat. Originally put it in this thread, not the right place for it so editing it out now and will post on its own!
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I plan to replace my running light bulbs with LED's soon. Never thought of using colored lights. Having done that would you recommend it? Instead of clear/white...?
My knowledge of light waves and optics is less than my knowledge of thermodynamics and I know nothing about thermodynamics. BUT....if I remember right...the green/red lenses will let more green/red light through than white light. I think that is the theory. All I know is that they appear brighter than when I had white LED bulbs. I don't think it is due to the newness of the bulb or lumens as the old bulbs were the same manufacturer and design as the new only the new are colored. I did clean the lenses but they weren't in bad shape.

I'm sure someone with some REAL knowledge can chime in and lay some science on the situation but to answer your question, yes, they do appear brighter.
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Good point.
A quick search and I found that side lights should be visible for at least 1 nautical mile on a 32' boat. Don't know how i would verify that if I used a colored light under a colored lens.
Don't understand what you are saying. Wouldn't it be confirmed the same as with a white bulb? Green bulb under a green lenses puts out a green light?
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Now I am curious (awesome timing now that I have already paid for and replaced the bulbs). I do find conflicting info on the subject. I also find some info on using cool white bulbs for a white /clear light ie. stern light, and using warm white for port starboard nav lights. I still have the white lights and they are easy to put back in.

There is really only one way to test how each set compares at 1 mile. I love a science project.
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I put LED bulbs in my old nav lights. New bulbs were way too dim. I replaced whole units with Aquasignal integral LED and those things are BRIGHT. Very happy.

Do be careful that if you replace the bulb with non standard LED, it will change how the light transfers through the fresnel lens and it may not be very visible from a distance.
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In reality I seriously doubt any Coasty will ever question a navigation light that just plane old turns on.

That said 1 mile visibility is easy, and the common nav light bulb is only 10 watts. Flick your Bic under a goal post and it can easily be seen under the other goal post.

Another specification is the cutoff and allowable "bleed" of the arcs of visibility. The Red and Greens are supposed to be 112.5 degrees each. Nav light manufacturers get this by using a vertical single filament bulb. Just about any replacement will not met this requirement as the placement of the filament is precise to get the specified arc.

If you like it, if it looks as least as bright as the original, and it turns on, well done, don't worry about it, carry on, and have a nice day.

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Also remember if you replace the halogen bulb, not to touch it with your fingers. The oil from you hand will reduce the life of the bulb.
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