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Old 03-09-2015, 02:11 PM   #101
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Gees.......from why or why not do you run your genny to actual instructions on how to change your own oil all in the same thread....amazing!

From the relevant entries on this thread, it would seem most folks just don't mind running their gennies. This surprised me as I thought there would be more of the green wing stating running the genny will end life on earth as we know it. Yet there were some good aspects of wind and solar.

Thanks everyone for the input. Admin, please close this thread....
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Old 03-09-2015, 03:59 PM   #102
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We don't view running the generator any differently than running the main engines. We run the mains if we want to go somewhere. We run the generator if we want AC.
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They will not close a thread just because you or anybody else requests it.

If you want it closed for whatever reason, you'll need to add some politics and/or name calling. Then they may consider closing it, or, moving it to OTDE.
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Old 03-09-2015, 05:16 PM   #104
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They will not close a thread just because you or anybody else requests it.

If you want it closed for whatever reason, you'll need to add some politics and/or name calling. Then they may consider closing it, or, moving it to OTDE.
Dang rules for everything!!!
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They will not close a thread just because you or anybody else requests it.

If you want it closed for whatever reason, you'll need to add some politics and/or name calling. Then they may consider closing it, or, moving it to OTDE.

Insulting other peoples choice of anchors might work.
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Old 03-09-2015, 06:59 PM   #106
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And what should I call the sailor who illegally stayed at the 3 hr town dock in Cocoa all night (posted no overnight) and docked not near the end, more in the middle so he limited the amount of area for others to tie up?

My genset puts out less air pollution than the thousands of cars driving over the causeway just a 1/4 mile away so I am not the problem in this anchorage at least.

Respect is a wonderful thing...out of the thousands of things we do and say everyday....we all sometimes do things that others wish we didnt.

I use my genset with care and thoughtfulness.....am I gonna piss off other boaters sometimes?...you bet... but a whole lot less than many piss me off.

I still liveaboard and cruise because the alternative is worse.
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Old 03-09-2015, 10:33 PM   #107
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I think people tend to over emphasize generator noise. Sometimes I think people are just plain oversensitive to generator noise.

As I was walking down the dock today, one side of the fairway is slips and the other side is a transient side tie with no power.

Several of the boats tied up along the side tie were running their generators and appear to been running their generators 24 seven for sometime. The noise was not loud, it was not offensive. You could hear the splashing of water a little bit and a little rumble coming from the boats that the generator was running on.

It's very cold right now in Seward Alaska, with the wind blowing 25 kn and the temperature in the 20s, and dipping down into the teens at night. I'm running my generator, 24 seven, because it's really the only way to warm up the engine room, and it's cold enough that my 27kbtu of diesel furnaces really can't keep up.

What I'm getting at, is that we as boaters need to live and let live a little. I suppose if you were anchored 10 feet from someone else a generator might be a little noisy, but I just cannot imagine doing that and having fun boating, so I just don't see the problem with generator noise.
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Old 03-09-2015, 10:42 PM   #108
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My brother is a diesel locomotive engineer. Now that makes noise.
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The engineer or the diesel locomotive?
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I cannot hear your generators over the sound of my Air-Breeze.
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Our gasoline 7.5 Kohler gen set easily power's our completely electric boat. No noise problem; zero vibration. Matter o' fact it's a joy... no prob at all!


PS: We never run at the dock except for occasional test/warm-up after long time sitting idle. Never run her when cruising. 45 min to an hour late morning and early night... when on the hook.
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Let common courtesy be your guide. Except in case of real need. Like powering the espresso machine.
Seems the closure suggestions breathed new life into the thread.
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To run a generator or not is the only thing we have to argue about since they closed the anchor threads.
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Seriously, multiple charging options are in my view a safety factor. Be it via solar panels, a wind genny or standard generator, all are important. IF your generator bothered me, it's MY problem, not yours. I move.

Most of the time what I hear is the water discharge and that rapidly becomes background clutter. If I had a generator I'd run it. Power is important to my happiness quotient.

Back when I had the Beast (gasoline engine) I'd take Seaweed for a spin whenever running the motor. As long as I was burning fuel, I might as well go some place. A windlass made a tremendous difference in allowing me to easily raise the anchor and go for an hour long boat ride.

That is good for my soul too.

It's more likely I'll be unimpressed with your music. Does't anybody like Dean Martin and Frank Sinatra anymore?!?!!!!

Sound does carry on the water. I've heard bits and pieces of conversations that people probably did not realize were quite so discernible. I'd much rather hear your generator or engine run than an argument with the spouse.
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I don't mind running the genny when we need it, but I prefer to keep it at a minimum. We have a 3K inverter with 12 golf cart battery house bank. This will run everything on the boat for a couple of days, except AC and water heater. I would run gen a couple of hours in the morning and again in the afternoon to top off batteries, heat water, and cool down or heat up the boat, as necessary.

We added solar to our boat last year. Four 100-watt panels and two 158-watt panels. It has made a huge difference in our generator run times. I now only need to run the gen for perhaps an hour each morning. The solar panels take care powering everything the rest of the day, with enough left over charge the batteries back up to 100%. That is something I never did with the gen, as it just took too long. If we were on the hook for couple of weeks, I would need to plan on running the gen all day at least once each week to get the batts topped off completely. Now, that is not a problem.

To be honest, I like the quiet of a secluded anchorage. I don't want to listen to my 12KW Norpro, even though it is in a sound shield and very quiet. You can only hear it if directly astern of me, and not more than 50' away.

I also dislike the fuel cost of running the gen multiple hours each day. Shaving off three hours per day has saved me upwards of $300/month, and that is at today's lower fuel cost. This savings paid for my solar panel upgrade in less than six months. Now I get free electricity!
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IF your generator bothered me, it's MY problem, not yours. I move.
I think this sums it up nicely. If you're going to anchor near me, it becomes your problem not mine. If you're a vegetarian, am I not supposed to cook my steak on the grill because the aroma might offend you?

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Old 03-10-2015, 11:38 AM   #118
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Good point and agree.....
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Old 03-10-2015, 11:55 AM   #119
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So to get back on point. If you have an anti-generator bias, why? If the boat is equipped with a genny, why not use it? Most gennies I have seen are mostly quiet. Yep there are a few that are noisy but not many. So why spend all the extra money, time and space for solar/wind?
I have never been bothered by a generator at anchor, although I rarely share a bay with another boat.

It seems there are some that do have an anti generator bias, and some that have an anti solar bias. Closed minds can be found everywhere.

As my boat came equipped with neither generator nor solar, I'm not spending extra money, time & space installing a solar charging system. It is a generator that would cost more, take up more space, and take more time to maintain if starting from scratch.
In my case it makes sense simply from a practical point of view.
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I think this sums it up nicely. If you're going to anchor near me, it becomes your problem not mine. If you're a vegetarian, am I not supposed to cook my steak on the grill because the aroma might offend you?

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Also for people that want to anchor on top of me better watch out for my exhaust if they're downwind, sometimes she likes to spit a little soot.

Also, the tender has about 400 watts of speaker power if you're really close.
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