View Poll Results: Rules of the road
You must stop your vessel since the other vessel is the stand-on. 6 30.00%
You must sound one short blast of the whistle and turn to starboard. 1 5.00%
You must sound the danger signal 12 60.00%
You must stop your engines and you may sound the danger signal. 1 5.00%
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Old 10-10-2012, 01:49 PM   #1
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Test : Rules of the Road 1 Q1: INLAND ONLY You are navigating in a narrow channel & must remain in the channel for safe operation. Another vessel is crossing the channel ahead of you from your starboard & you doubt whether your vessel will pass safely. Which statement is TRUE?
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Old 10-10-2012, 09:13 PM   #2
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5 short blasts.... while I'm the stand on vessel...slowing would be prudent if I could and maintain steerage.
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Old 10-10-2012, 09:54 PM   #3
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Why isn't "Ram him" a choice?
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Old 10-10-2012, 10:03 PM   #4
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5 short blasts.... while I'm the stand on vessel...slowing would be prudent if I could and maintain steerage.
I agree. Repeating the five short/rapid blasts may needed.

But I don't understand how the question is stated: "which statement is true."
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Old 10-11-2012, 12:16 AM   #5
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As I understand the rules, no more than one torpedo from the starboard tube is allowed if the offending vessel has not crossed your bow, however if the boat is almost dead ahead both starboard and port tubes may be used.
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Old 10-11-2012, 01:07 AM   #6
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As I understand the rules, no more than one torpedo from the starboard tube is allowed if the offending vessel has not crossed your bow, however if the boat is almost dead ahead both starboard and port tubes may be used.
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Old 10-11-2012, 01:46 PM   #7
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Here lies the body of one Michael O'Day. He died defending his right of way. Mike was right, dead right, as he sailed along. BUT, he's just as dead as if he'd been wrong!

Moral of the story... protect one's own assss; take diversionary maneuvers as may become necessary! Otherwise... carry on with rules o da road... err sea!
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Old 10-11-2012, 02:15 PM   #8
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I agree. Repeating the five short/rapid blasts may needed.

But I don't understand how the question is stated: "which statement is true."
Mark if you look at the post using a computer (not a smartphone) you will see this is a poll. I had the same confusion looking at this on my phone.
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No "choices" show up on my computer either.

There is nothing other than a horizontal line and his signature phrase after "Which statement is TRUE?"
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Old 10-11-2012, 02:53 PM   #10
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I see no choices eithyer on my desktop office computer.

But, if it's already "ahead of" me, then it has the ROW as far as I'm concerned.

But my rule of thumb is to arrive alive.

I might consider popping a few rounds his direction though if they cut me off.
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Old 10-11-2012, 02:55 PM   #11
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Old 10-11-2012, 02:58 PM   #12
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I suspect it's a trick question because of the "inland rules" comment, but my reaction would be to slow down or even stop to avoid a collision. My boat is the "give way" boat in my understanding.

What's not mentioned is the size of the boats. If it's a PWC, he gets five horn blasts and I continue full speed ahead. If the other boat is an aircraft carrier, I will slow or stop until it is out of the way.
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Old 10-11-2012, 03:23 PM   #13
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The answer is 3 ...you MUST sound the danger signal...you are SUPPOSED to maintain course and speed until extremis ....you then take alternate action....

Rule 9 Narrow Channel...
"If in doubt, she shall sound the danger signal prescribed in Rule 34(d)."
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Hmm I see the poll choices ABOVE the first post, right below the ad bar. . Maybe it's a software glitch that not all can see it.

Current results are 5 votes for #1 you must stop your vessel bc other vessel is stand on, 1 vote for #2 you must sound one short blast and turn to starboard, 8 votes for #3 you must sound the danger signal and 1 vote for #4 you must stop your engines and sound the danger signal.
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Old 10-11-2012, 06:00 PM   #15
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It can only be 3...I'm pretty sure it never says in the rules you MUST stop you engines/vessel and you can't leave the channel for safe navigation It even says NARROW CHANNEL...so if you read rule 9...it pretty much gives the answer....

(d) A vessel shall not cross a narrow passage or fairway if such crossing impedes the passage of a vessel which can safely navigate only within such channel or fairway. The latter vessel may use the sound signal prescribed in Rule 34(d) if in doubt as to the intention of the crossing vessel.

I used to teach Captains licensing so I became very familiar with the way the USCG asked and answered questions...we had to teach as much how to answer as the actual material.

Rule 17- Action by Stand-on Vessel (a) (i) Where one of two vessels is to keep out of the way, the other shall keep her course and speed.
(ii) The latter vessel may however take action to avoid collision by her maneuver alone, as soon as it becomes apparent to her that the vessel required to keep out of the way is not taking appropriate action in compliance with these Rules.

This rule eliminates 1 and 4...action of a stand on vessel in a narrow channel...
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Old 10-11-2012, 07:03 PM   #16
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Like they say "De bigga de boat, de righter the way."
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Old 10-11-2012, 07:26 PM   #17
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Like they say "De bigga de boat, de righter the way."
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Unless there's a problem and you were required to hold course and speed...you could be found a lot more negligent than you want to pay out...
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If you insist on maintaining ccourse and speed because you are the stand on vessel, you may end up being "dead right".

In the real world, the other boater quite possibly doesn't know the rules and may mistake your horn signal for you just being a jerk.

It's a good classroom exercise, but not practical in the real world. Further in the regulations is a statement about taking any action to avoid a collision. It's important.
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Old 10-11-2012, 08:31 PM   #19
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Old 10-11-2012, 09:48 PM   #20
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If you insist on maintaining ccourse and speed because you are the stand on vessel, you may end up being "dead right".

In the real world, the other boater quite possibly doesn't know the rules and may mistake your horn signal for you just being a jerk.

It's a good classroom exercise, but not practical in the real world. Further in the regulations is a statement about taking any action to avoid a collision. It's important.
Yes and no....being a professional captain including serious towing situations I know that many boaters don't know the rules...I see it every day...that doesn't mean you get to ignore the rules. It isn't about insisting...it's the rules and I'm pretty sure we are obliged to follow them in the CFRs.

When extremis happens...you take the appropriate action. In this situation...immediately changing course (if even able to) and speed is the sign of a rookie captain...you sound the danger signal/make radio calls and wait till you know the other boater isn't gonna follow the rules...anything less is just as negligent.

The real trick is to alter any course and speed you can far enough in advance so that a collision situation isn't even foreseeable.... the trouble with that concept is for many vessels..they are already at max maneuvering so any vessel impeding their progress in a narrow channel is a real life issue...not just a classroom exercise.
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