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Old 09-22-2015, 02:30 PM   #1
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Rocna's new Anchor????

So I saw this posted on another forum and thought it would be fun:


Any guesses on Rocna's new rollbar-less anchor coming out? Countdown to announcement on their site. Rocna Anchors // Rock Solid
Is it going to fit my bowsprit? Will it be made in China? So much stress.
And.......go!


hehehehehehe
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So I saw this posted on another forum and thought it would be fun:


Any guesses on Rocna's new rollbar-less anchor coming out? Countdown to announcement on their site. Rocna Anchors // Rock Solid
Is it going to fit my bowsprit? Will it be made in China? So much stress.
And.......go!


hehehehehehe

Here's your stress reliever:

http://www.sail-world.com/New-Manson...on-test/107571
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Old 09-24-2015, 03:38 AM   #3
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So I saw this posted on another forum and thought it would be fun:


Any guesses on Rocna's new rollbar-less anchor coming out? Countdown to announcement on their site. Rocna Anchors // Rock Solid
Is it going to fit my bowsprit? Will it be made in China? So much stress.
And.......go!


hehehehehehe

This is very old news. The anchor, called the Vulcan, has been out for some time now. I saw a few on boats in Anacortes a couple of months ago. I assume it is made in the same Canadian Metals fabrication plant in China that makes the Rocna.
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Old 09-24-2015, 12:39 PM   #4
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This is very old news. The anchor, called the Vulcan, has been out for some time now. I saw a few on boats in Anacortes a couple of months ago. I assume it is made in the same Canadian Metals fabrication plant in China that makes the Rocna.
Well dang. I was hoping on a new thousand reply thread!!!! It hard being a pot stirrer....
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Old 09-24-2015, 12:51 PM   #5
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New anchor

Is the Boss new?
Is the Excel new?
The Vulcan still looks like a Spade w an improved Boss shank.
To many any anchor since the introduction of the Bruce in the early 70's is new. The only anchor that stands a chance at out doing the Rocna's 5-1 to 7-1 scope performance is the XYZ Extreme. But it hasn't been tested.
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Bro- if you can't stir it up on an anchor thread- then it probably can't be done. Heck, it was news to me!!


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It appears the Vulcan is an imitation of the Boss which has been around for several years and has a solid record. With that said, why not just buy the proven Boss?
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Price of those Rocnas, I expect to see a few disappearing off bows over the winter.
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Price of those Rocnas, I expect to see a few disappearing off bows over the winter.
We keep ours padlocked to the boat when we're not using it. Reason is that it's an "original" Rocna, made long prior to the move to China and the ensuing flap over steel quality. Supposedly Canadian Metals has resolved all that with the manufacturing move from the Chinese factory used by Holdfast to their own wholely-owned factory in China with, presumably, far superior quality control. But ours is made of what it's supposed to be made of so we don't want to lose it.....
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Old Deck,
Do you have experience w the Boss?
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Yes, we have a Boss.
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Greetings,
I'm retired so I can say that the boss is a twit.

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Here are both of them. To me, while there are similarities, notably the relatively short, curved shanks, they are quite different in their fluke designs. It would appear that for a given size, the Vulcan has the greater fluke area, which I think is a plus. I'm not sure what the Cadillac fins on the Boss bring to its function but I assume they contribute something, at least in theory.

I'm not going to speculate on how well they perform based on a couple of photos, and while I've seen several boats in this area with Vulcans I've not talked to anyone who's used one. I've never seen a Boss at all.
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Our boating area contains widely varied bottom types and therefore it is difficult to find one all purpose pick. We have experience with a 33 and 66 Bruce and both have found the Bruce rock. Also we have used Delta anchors with fairly good success. Our current boat has a 35 Boss and so far it has set in all bottoms well. Interestingly the spade end or working end of the Boss is significantly larger then that of the Delta and Bruce of the same weight. By the end of next year I will have considerably more data on the Boss.
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Marin, the fins on the Boss function to right the anchor similar to the action of a roll bar on other anchors. The photos may be a little deceiving in that the fluke area of the 35 Boss is considerable. It is a little more than 20 inches from wing tip to wing tip. For those that would like to compare fluke areas they may be able to find the information on line. It appears that the Vulcan is a take off of the Boss.

I was hoping that I would not be one to get bloody fingers from typing too much on a anchor thread. Oh well, in the future perhaps I will be able to avoid these threads.
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Old Deck,
As long as you keep posting pics of your E32 you can say anything you like.
Have you ever damaged the Boss? Handling one at a boat show it seemed kind of lightweight. It was small though but large for it's weight. Clearly though if it's lighter it will probably have greater fluke area. And many anchor experts say fluke area is directionally proportional to holding power. That fails to address quite a number of anchor design variables. Perhaps the Boss can be (more than most other anchors) comparable to the Fortress.
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Full Definition of OXYMORON

: a combination of contradictory or incongruous words (as cruel kindness); broadly : something (as a concept) that is made up of contradictory or incongruous elements
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I rest my case...
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As long as you keep posting pics of your E32 you can say anything you like.
Have you ever damaged the Boss? Handling one at a boat show it seemed kind of lightweight. It was small though but large for it's weight. Clearly though if it's lighter it will probably have greater fluke area. And many anchor experts say fluke area is directionally proportional to holding power. That fails to address quite a number of anchor design variables. Perhaps the Boss can be (more than most other anchors) comparable to the Fortress.
And your Willard is real eye candy for us. No damage yet. I have bent up several Danforths, does that count?
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Full Definition of OXYMORON

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I rest my case...
Cruel...but kind RT...

And, no...I'm noggonna say anything about anchors...other than "whats that long slitty thing running right along that Boss's shank, there..?"
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